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TvT is very fun to watch, best mirror
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If you "contain" someone to three bases - you need to outexpand and then trade units.
Not sit there on equal bases and have a less effecient army.
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On July 05 2011 21:42 Yaotzin wrote:
Arg TvT bores me to tears. Impossible to just kill someone who deserves to die.
well TvZ is the same, mostly because most people go siege tanks. And if you're going mech it's hard to finish your opponent. If the player who's going bio actually wins the ending comes in a swift fashion.
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On July 05 2011 21:40 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:39 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Keen is actually not playing this right, normally the one with an immobile army like supernova should be the one thats starving, now its the opposite. wait what? The one with the immobile army should be able to contain his opponent, so this is what should happen...
The mobile army can get into position faster... their contain would be weaker than the immobile's army's contain though. See MMA vs Supernova, MMA basically starved Supernova's Mech army because he had marauders which helped him get position with the tanks. Also asd vs Jinro I guess.
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lol, Nestea the only player of Soomi's to make it through to the next round so far.
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On July 05 2011 21:44 woob wrote:
TvT is very fun to watch, best mirror
But hardest to play for normal people like us 
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On July 05 2011 21:44 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:42 Yaotzin wrote:
Arg TvT bores me to tears. Impossible to just kill someone who deserves to die. He could have killed his opponent ages ago, he just was playing it safe.
I know, that's the problem. It's so easy to lose everything in TvT so everyone plays it ultra safe and you have fucking boring 30 minute games where 1 guy was dead for half of it.
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On July 05 2011 21:44 bittman wrote:Did you even tune into sC v MVP?
No I didn't actually. Because TvT is mostly what we just saw in Keen vs Supernova.
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This was obviously OGS's plan so nada/supernova didn't have to play.
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go cameraman, you can get the S this time!
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On July 05 2011 21:34 MechKing wrote:
I see this bionic style dying out soon honestly. you need so much multitasking to actually beat a full mech terran, and even then the mech terran can still shut down drops with good missile turrets and motion sensors.
I think vs mech you should either go siege tank your self or mass mauruders, and just drop every fucking where all the time. Having a decent tank count disallows you to do a lot of bio harass as it is somewhat easy to defend it with a few turrets/sensor towers/hellions/and 1-2 tanks.
The nuke play however was very interesting, but imo it would have worked better with only bio. Imagine nuking the siege tan line, forcing 10 tanks to unsiege then stim and 1a with bio. Feels like there is some potential there.
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On July 05 2011 21:23 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:22 Dreamer.T wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Indeed, no one has been consistently winning as Nada. Dude is truly amazing. Well said  And he is showing this in SC2 too
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I wasn't keen on seeing him go down 0-2 in Code S.
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On July 05 2011 21:46 Dreamer.T wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:23 Beyonder wrote:On July 05 2011 21:22 Dreamer.T wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Indeed, no one has been consistently winning as Nada. Dude is truly amazing. Well said And he is showing this in SC2 too Thanks
Hate your sig! bomber is better than everyone in it  (
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On July 05 2011 21:41 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:39 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:34 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:33 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:30 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:28 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:
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Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers. What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW. He can win more Starleagues How will beating people who he has already beaten show his prowess(hunting for right word). Hes beaten and even sometimes been beaten by them before it doenst seem like anyone is going to rise up to there BW level because people who could saw easier money/lighter schedule/kespa hate and moved on. You act like there's no up-and-comers or rookies.... Plus, he's 12-12 vs. Stork. He can still beat him more. I act like there arent as many up and comers as there once were. Also if I remmeber August is coming and that means a decent amount of people leaving BW draining the talent pool more. The good ones are still in BW. And the August thing is not only speculation, but that would not be the people with huge potential leaving.
A few of the people who already switched I thought might be really good in BW. Plus if people do leave those up and comers are merely going to be seen as taking the spots of better players who moved on so beating them wont enhance flashes image. If anything he risks losing more losing to them then he stands to gain by beating htem.
Also ty keen I was afraid I might get my liquibet wrong today and you saved me.
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Go Hongun , Need a Protoss win :p
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On July 05 2011 21:48 Minaegi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:46 Dreamer.T wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Beyonder wrote:On July 05 2011 21:22 Dreamer.T wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Indeed, no one has been consistently winning as Nada. Dude is truly amazing. Well said And he is showing this in SC2 too Thanks Hate your sig! bomber is better than everyone in it (
You can't be serious...
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On July 05 2011 21:49 StimMarine wrote:
HAHAHA NO MORE TERRAN!
what?
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