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On July 01 2011 14:33 BlindDruid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man. Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet. This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that. No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown. His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches average? some people have weird impressions of average. If you have 12-15 stalkers and put packs back - it's average. If you have 40 then it's ok to take sometimes 2 or 3 stalkers back i guess....
Right, you dont pick individual stalkers in large battles, you slice off layers. Which he did with his 550 APM.
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On July 01 2011 14:31 minhbq299 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:24 Olinim wrote:On July 01 2011 14:23 asperger wrote:On July 01 2011 14:22 Olinim wrote:On July 01 2011 14:14 minhbq299 wrote:PUzzle is fucking MC's class even better  Win a game vs sheth and now you're better than MC...lol. It's a pretty ridiculous comparison, but he did beat MMA as well. Yeah in a matchup he has a 41 percent winrate in. I dont why you guys dont admit that Puzzle is S class player. I dont say sheth is bad, but he got outplayed this game. Stop coming up with excuses for your favorite player or race, while ignoring other guy play well even MMA get outplayed by the kid. And before the ro32, a lot of koreans pro predict puzzle will win mma, because puzzle have a scary reputation on ladder.
LOL S class? Come on... Puzzle is good, that's for sure, but he played something like 30 games... to me It's not enough. Saying that he's top 3 protoss or that he's MC-level is unreasonable.
Anyway these mutalisks can be very dangerous depending on Yugi's control
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United States97276 Posts
On July 01 2011 14:35 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:32 andaylin wrote:On July 01 2011 14:31 minhbq299 wrote:On July 01 2011 14:24 Olinim wrote:On July 01 2011 14:23 asperger wrote:On July 01 2011 14:22 Olinim wrote:On July 01 2011 14:14 minhbq299 wrote:PUzzle is fucking MC's class even better Win a game vs sheth and now you're better than MC...lol. It's a pretty ridiculous comparison, but he did beat MMA as well. Yeah in a matchup he has a 41 percent winrate in. I dont why you guys dont admit that Puzzle is S class player. I dont say sheth is bad, but he got outplayed this game. Stop coming up with excuses for your favorite player or race, while ignoring other guy play well even MMA get outplayed by the kid. And before the ro32, a lot of koreans pro predict puzzle will win mma, because puzzle have a scary reputation on ladder. you dont need to call everything puzzle does "outplaying". going 8 gate blink stalkers isn't exactly outplaying. LOL Wait, so if you go 8-gate blink, you're not outplaying, no matter how well you execute it? That's a pretty dumb notion you have there. If you didn't outplay your opponent when using 8-gate blink, then what was it? Sounds like you're doing a subtle balance whine.
Nope cause if a zerg loses its a build order loss but if a zerg wins its world class Code S champion micro
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On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man. Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet. This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that. No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown. His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done. Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them. And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average. Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces. But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there
You keep saying that over and over and over.
But the fact of the matter is, if you look at any GOOD Protoss, i.e HuK vs MC, Xiaot vs MC, Puzzle vs San (during recent event), Puzzle vs Sheth, HuK vs Naniwa
Their APM's spike to absurd numbers during battles, you can keep down playing it all you want but I dare you to find me a Protoss at the level of Puzzle, XiaoT, MC, HuK who doesn't reach APM's of 350-500APM during battles.
I mean, MC vs XiaoT had a 400APM 4gate vs 4gate battle...you can assume all you want but the proof is in the pudding.
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Nydus coming up for Yugioh
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On July 01 2011 14:35 LightWireEX wrote:
I don't think people realize he was blinking back clumps of stalkers as the roaches attacked so they wouldn't even do damage. -_-
I noticed. Puzzle played great both games, regardless with anyone says.
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yugioh dealing with the helions much better than min
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On July 01 2011 14:31 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:30 Codeskye wrote:On July 01 2011 14:26 skullhoof wrote:
Beating someone good once doesn't mean you are at his level, winning only championship prove your skill so what you're saying is the rest of code s besides oGsMC, IMNesTea, and IMMvp are the only ones with skill? (those are the only three that have won Code S twice and PoltPrime 1 championship) flawed logic you have there. He's saying that by winning an entire championship, you prove your superiority in the field. Winning 1 series is not enough to declare you a better player.
puzzle never declared he's a better player than anyone.
what you're saying and what he's saying are different.
skill =/= superiority
anyone can have skill, but can anyone be superior? do you see what i'm trying to say now?
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On July 01 2011 14:35 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man. Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet. This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that. No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown. His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done. Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them. And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average. Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces. But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there You have no idea what you're talking about, nor do you understand the concepts of positioning, concaves or the fact that you can dodge projectile attacks.
Wanna know something funny? You can't dodge roach attacks. The damage is instantaneous, even if it looks like you are blinking to dodge it
You have no idea what YOURE talking about. So stop talking.
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United States97276 Posts
Thats an assload of mutas
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
Hrm, it's interesting seeing IM Terrans meching so much, I wonder whether we're likely to see it from MVP in Code S :O
I really like how Happy is playing, holy shit though that's a lot of Mutas for Yugioh
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Holy, that's a lot of mech units there by Happy.
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United States15275 Posts
Jesus that is one crazy mech ball.
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No one believes in bio anymore 
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On July 01 2011 14:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Thats an assload of mutas Yeah that's unacceptable, time to dumb it down with mass thors.
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Hong Kong2752 Posts
On July 01 2011 14:29 asperger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:27 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
I want to buy IMHappy for my fantasy team, is there a way? Yes, but trading is only open between the GSTL weeks. So today some time after the games.
o i see thx
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magic box mutas will destroy.
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On July 01 2011 14:36 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man. Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet. This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that. No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown. His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done. Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them. And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average. Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces. But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there You keep saying that over and over and over. But the fact of the matter is, if you look at any GOOD Protoss, i.e HuK vs MC, Xiaot vs MC, Puzzle vs San (during recent event), Puzzle vs Sheth, HuK vs Naniwa Their APM's spike to absurd numbers during battles, you can keep down playing it all you want but I dare you to find me a Protoss at the level of Puzzle, XiaoT, MC, HuK who doesn't reach APM's of 350-500APM during battles. I mean, MC vs XiaoT had a 400APM 4gate vs 4gate battle...you can assume all you want but the proof is in the pudding.
Way to talk about totally different things. 4 gate is extremely apm and micro intensive. Blink play is not nearly as much,
Oh, and also? Last time i checked, 400 apm was almost only HALF of 730 APM
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LOL THORS. suck against mutas magic boxed. thats why full mech isn't good.
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