EPTOn June 20 2011 19:49 cnc wrote:
Korea is successful at SC2 for the same reason USA is successful in the olympics
Korea is successful at SC2 for the same reason USA is successful in the olympics
diverse population?
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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans: Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing. Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
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Tommie
China658 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:49 cnc wrote: Korea is successful at SC2 for the same reason USA is successful in the olympics What reason would this be? They put the most money into training for it? | ||
Nyovne
Netherlands19138 Posts
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:47 Plexa wrote: Let's drop the IQ debate. I can't believe I had to write that. Yeah can we please just end this shit? I'm sick of people who can't just take a comment like "Korea will always be better than foreigners", they feel like the comment is a 'racial challenge' and will throw essay explanations of how Korea's pro scene and infrastructure is better bla bla bla... we get it, we don't need you to explain it. Just accept it. Foreigners will never, ever, ever be better than Koreans in Starcraft. I'm "foreigner", and I've accepted it. So lets end this senseless debate shit on a tournament LR thread ffs.... | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
And i don't see Huk beating July, i really hope he does though | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:41 PraetorianX wrote: That is incorrect. The majority tried to come up with explanations why this would be inaccurate, but no criticism would stick. Richard Lynn has spend whole books countering the arguments you are referring to, and he has done so well. Regarding the North Korean datapoint - it is based on a (relatively small) number of North Korean refugees in South Korea. Many other countries' datapoints are also based on small sample sizes. This is, however, irrelevant. Many studies have found the same broader pattern to be true, regardless of small variations in average IQ as a result of small sample size in some datapoints. Richard Lynn huh? Credible guy. IQ is such an outdated and arbitrary measurement I'm surprised we haven't moved on to something with a little more relevance yet. But the reason koreans are doing so well in sc2 is of course due to a culture of good work ethics and a long established infrastructure for e-sport leading to the forming of teams and team houses almost immediately after sc2 release.. User was warned for this post | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:48 thoradycus wrote: as far as I know, IQ is hereditary and has nothing to do with quality of education?? if by hereditary, you mean the environment you grow up in.. ie if Einstein had kids, he would obviously be telling them about his theories/experiments enough that they would eventually pick up things from it.. as opposed to if Einstein gave his kids away for adoption to a drunken drug-using trailorpark family who can't afford to put their kids in school... chances are they would score significantly lower on an IQ test. Nature vs Nurture. User was warned for this post | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote: No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ux8JL.jpg) And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions. That is stupid argument, what has intelligence has to do with SC2 ? Also note that the differences in IQ are miniscule compared to difference in SC2 performance. 5 point differences in IQ are easily achieved by cultural and educational influences (see your own map). As for engineers and scientists, West was pumping much more of them in the past, it is more cultural/societal difference as western societies are somewhat neglecting those areas. User was warned for this post | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Bomber will destroy Moon though I hope Moon can pull something off. | ||
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Nivity
Sweden371 Posts
No stage play, BO3 in ro4, seriously? Even in ro8 its bad with bo3. Shit tournament ;/ | ||
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Benga
Korea (South)471 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:50 Nyovne wrote: Super strict moderation starts here again: ________________________________________________________ This includes this whole stupid race debate. The thin red line people. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:51 grobo wrote: Well, moon nearly lost to Tarson, so Bomber is gonna M-M-M-M-M-MONSTER ROLL him. And i don't see Huk beating July, i really hope he does though Moon always looks like SURELY he'll get rolled in his next series. Who really knows.. | ||
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ZeGzoR
Sweden307 Posts
On IQ test; They are pretty irrelevent, they only messure one skill, and disgard importent skills like retorical skills, social skills and other skills that are often more importent then logical skills to survive in todays society (Look at someone like Sara Pahlin). User was warned for this post | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
Soryy, i posted it before the moderation call. I just wanted to give some date on the chart as it appears from time to time, and i have some (little) experience on this field. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:50 PraetorianX wrote: No, this picture is from Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality But I think it says a lot about you, that you think it's from Stormfront. And regarding you last statement - I am both a doctor (med student) and a gamer. That may be anecdotal, but I'm pretty sure all pro SC2 gamers are high-IQ individuals. Idra, for example, has said he is going to study physics after SC2. Well Wikipedia has 0 credibility, I think it says a lot about you. User was warned for this post | ||
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gm.tOSS
Germany898 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:52 Bleak wrote: To go back on the topic, can someone tell me who is playing who for the semis? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DreamHack_Summer_2011#Playoffs | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
On June 20 2011 19:52 Bleak wrote: To go back on the topic, can someone tell me who is playing who for the semis? HuK vs July Bomber vs Moon | ||
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