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On June 20 2011 04:33 ffadicted wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:32 diverzee wrote:On June 20 2011 04:26 ptbl wrote:
I wonder why Ret is using outdated unit compositions from a couple of months ago. Look at the timing he tried to hit. What do you think would have happened to Socke if he hadn't managed to stall the fights with force fields until his colossi came out? You do understand that's EXACTLY what force fields are for and every single protoss always gets a ton of them for that exact reason? That's like me saying "Imagine how good my 4 gate would've been if repair didn't exist and he didn't put down bunkers after FEing"?
So he underestimated for how long Socke could stall the fight. He underestimated to what extent force fields can dictate the flow of the game. Metalopolis has an open expo and Ret's army at the time of his advancing looked vastly superior to Socke's. The only weapon Socke had which could stop an inevitable doom would be colossus, which he at the time of Ret's initial army advancement was far from having.
People complain so blindly about a composition they have read on the internet is "bad". "Uh, why he do Roach Hydra, even I am better than doing that". The thing is, roach hydra destroys everything protoss has as long as there isn't a colossus out.
Ret had perfect timing with the perfect army, had he not understimated how many force fields Socke had.
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On June 20 2011 04:35 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:33 DoomsVille wrote:On June 20 2011 04:32 mcc wrote:Hmm, seems like it will be Korean domination, at least I see top 2 being Koreans as MC v Bomber will eliminate one of the in quarterfinals. Shame that ThorZain is not in anymore as he was probably the only one who in my opinion could have taken MC or Bomber out. I don't think any EU protoss can beat Bomber and PvP vs MC is more likely, but still very hard. Idra or Sen can beat Bomber possibly if they meet, but in Idra's case that is highly unlikely  I can see MC losing to NaNiwa or white-ra in PvP. I mean NaNiwa vs. MC at MLG wasn't exactly completely one-sided. The games were pretty terrible BO loses. PvP is just so random that any of the 3 could beat each other. MC destroyed nani in colombus. PvP isn't as random as people think it is. It IS extremely unforgiving, but for players with near perfect micro like MC it becomes much less of a toss-up. I'd say special taktiks have a better chance
i wouldn't call naniwa stupidly dancing his zealots in MC's base, naniwa getting destroyed. The second game was a build order loss with Naniwa delaying his warpgate tech for some reason and getting 4gated.
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On June 20 2011 04:41 Azarkon wrote:
While Ret's ZvP might have seemed uninspired compared to Sen's and July's, he did get quite far in this tournament and lost to Socke, who has one of the best PvZ in Europe.
Yeah he did pretty well overall, I just feel like he didn't play anywhere near his potential those last 2 games.
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On June 20 2011 04:40 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 20 2011 04:30 Dariusz wrote:On June 20 2011 04:29 Pipeline wrote:On June 20 2011 04:26 sc2olorin wrote:On June 20 2011 03:17 sc2olorin wrote:
Here are the correct predictions FYI
Ro16
Socke vs Ret
Huk vs Predy
July vs Mana
Sase vs Sen
MC vs Idra
Bomber vs HasuObs
WhiteRa vs Moon
BratOK vs Naniwa
Ro8
Socke vs Huk
July vs Sen
MC vs Hasu
Whitera vs Naniwa
Ro4
Socke vs Sen
Hasu vs Naniwa
Final
Sen vs Naniwa
Yeah, it's a lot of PvP, but sorry, I can't control the future, only predict it. 4 for 4 so far! :D You sir, are crazy. Do you really think Hasu will beat Bomber.... and then beat MC? No chance He beat Thorzain. Well that sure is an irrelevant answer if I've ever seen one. He beat Thorzain. Hahahaha so what??? Thorzain??? What does beating Thorzain have to do with even being close to capable of beating Bomber? Bomber and Thorzain aren't even close in terms of skill. Not even close. Bomber hasn't really looked that impressive in this tournament though. He's good but certainly not unbeatable.
Yeah, maybe stamina is an issue for him. I would say HuK or MC are looking stronger right now.
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woohoo hasu right guessed teh banshee ...
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On June 20 2011 04:41 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:40 Probe1 wrote:On June 20 2011 04:39 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hasuobs vs. Bomber on Terminus On ICCUP and Khaldor. ICCUP is sometimes hit or miss.
I wish own3d worked properly for me, I'd much prefer the sc2 vin diesel even in german over the iccup boys.
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Bomber, the hope of Terran!
Brat OK may still be there, but i think Naniwa will defeat him.
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Bomber goes for the 1base all in
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On June 20 2011 04:35 sQually wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:33 Telcontar wrote:
I just hope we see a terran make it to the Ro8. Yeah man, terran have really been struggling to make it far in tournaments lately. MLG and GSL have been proof of this..
MLG had one terran going far....not sure what you're talking about there. GSL I cant deny your view no matter how hard I try...saying the amount of talent per capita is a lot bigger in terran players and you wont agree with me, saying that stupid brackets had the better players from other races kill each other doesnt help and one or 2 upsets and you could somewhat explain a lot of terrans....not only terrans tho...so theres no way I can win an argument on that TT
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Watching Hasu-Bomber on Khaldor's stream even tho i don't understand german, but i can stand those iCC comentators....
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I already have a bad feeling about Hasu in this game.
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On June 20 2011 04:42 Seditary wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:41 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 20 2011 04:40 Probe1 wrote:On June 20 2011 04:39 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hasuobs vs. Bomber on Terminus On ICCUP and Khaldor. ICCUP is sometimes hit or miss. I wish own3d worked properly for me, I'd much prefer the sc2 vin diesel even in german over the iccup boys.
turn off add block and no more lags for you sir
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Damn just woke up and see the results, nothing suprising really. Are there playoff brackets anywhere now?
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On June 20 2011 04:27 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:26 OrchidThief wrote:On June 20 2011 04:24 Severian wrote:
Ret's ZvP is uninspired. Socke's ZvP was just as uninspired. Ooooh, I make DT's. He reacted to what he knew Ret was going to do. DT works wonders in this situation since lair is a bit late.
The two most common responses to a P fast expand seem to be a roach-ling all-in or an immediate third before lair. DT's work great against both. IMO, as a P you almost have to go DT or stargate after you expand to give yourself a way to secure the third.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong. MC vs IdrA match is ro16? So we're down to atleast 16 players?
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On June 20 2011 04:42 WArped wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:40 Sneakyz wrote:On June 20 2011 04:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 20 2011 04:30 Dariusz wrote:On June 20 2011 04:29 Pipeline wrote:On June 20 2011 04:26 sc2olorin wrote:On June 20 2011 03:17 sc2olorin wrote:
Here are the correct predictions FYI
Ro16
Socke vs Ret
Huk vs Predy
July vs Mana
Sase vs Sen
MC vs Idra
Bomber vs HasuObs
WhiteRa vs Moon
BratOK vs Naniwa
Ro8
Socke vs Huk
July vs Sen
MC vs Hasu
Whitera vs Naniwa
Ro4
Socke vs Sen
Hasu vs Naniwa
Final
Sen vs Naniwa
Yeah, it's a lot of PvP, but sorry, I can't control the future, only predict it. 4 for 4 so far! :D You sir, are crazy. Do you really think Hasu will beat Bomber.... and then beat MC? No chance He beat Thorzain. Well that sure is an irrelevant answer if I've ever seen one. He beat Thorzain. Hahahaha so what??? Thorzain??? What does beating Thorzain have to do with even being close to capable of beating Bomber? Bomber and Thorzain aren't even close in terms of skill. Not even close. Bomber hasn't really looked that impressive in this tournament though. He's good but certainly not unbeatable. Yeah, maybe stamina is an issue for him. I would say HuK or MC are looking stronger right now.
He's actually had issues with nerves. That's why it took so long for him to make it to Code A/S. Let's hope it doesn't affect him here.
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Bomber seems to be going for a raven banshee tank all-in here, it's gonna be so powerful with taht amount of probes killed
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bomber all ins! hope hasu can hold with his top notch unit control and patience
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