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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 18 2011 10:55 GMT
#1181
On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote:
You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for.

....so you're just a bandwagon fan that can't stomach following someone who isn't dominant? I dont understand this mentality.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 10:55 GMT
#1182
On June 18 2011 19:55 iYiYi wrote:
Such a boring game, I think I might be turning Korean. Watching DRG vs SC was much more exciting. Lots more pushes in micro the whole game. These two just turtled forever...

yeah but this is just the first day
gotta remember that
lalala
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
June 18 2011 10:55 GMT
#1183
On June 18 2011 19:50 whiteLotus wrote:
i think david kim was right about broodlords/infestors


Three base versus seven base and if it weren't for broodlord/infestor the game would still be pretty even.

Terran can turtle. Zerg and Protoss MUST have armies that can beat the armies that a Terran can turtle up to on 3 base (even if they just have two running at a time).
I
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1184
On June 18 2011 19:54 Logros wrote:
It's pretty hard to deal with that yeah. You need marines or vikings to deal with broodlords but those get completely shut down by fungal growth and corruptors. Ghosts are probably needed and mass marine drops to abuse the immobility.

but imo its difficult to emp if there are overseers and infestors are positioned safely..yea its a 50/50 situation with no hard counters
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1185
On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote:
You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for.


He playing in the NA ladder now he is playing against the top not really a suprice
Mojar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia185 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1186
mass marine dropping mixed with heavy ghost play dominates that style from zerg.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1187
On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote:
You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for.


Eh, Tyler beat Jinro at the start of Jinro's slump and when Jinro couldn't buy a win in TvP.

-------

It's interesting that BratOK doesn't use ghosts. He was one of the Terrans pioneering heavy ghost lategame TvZ before the ghost change in the recent patch, and now that people are saying "you need ghosts" he's gone away from using them.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1188
Game three now starting on Metalopolis

Brat_Ok vs Morrow

In the North position is Brat_Ok

While in the right is Morrow
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1189
On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game three now starting on Metalopolis

Brat_Ok vs Morrow

In the North position is Brat_Ok

While in the right is Morrow


2:00

Barracks on the way for Brat_Ok
crabz
Profile Joined May 2011
227 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1190
On June 18 2011 19:56 Mojar wrote:
mass marine dropping mixed with heavy ghost play dominates that style from zerg.

stop theorycrafting ffs
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1191
On June 18 2011 19:54 Shalaiyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:52 frostalgia wrote:
even with ghosts this would be unstoppable.. zerg op


Neural parasite a ghost. EMP the other ghosts.




oh god please don't
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#1192
On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game three now starting on Metalopolis

Brat_Ok vs Morrow

In the North position is Brat_Ok

While in the right is Morrow


2:00

Barracks on the way for Brat_Ok


2:20

Hatch first for Morrow
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1193
What did D.Kim said about broodlord/infestor? Didn't catch that.
Si vis pacem para bellum
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1194
On June 18 2011 19:53 Gaxton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:52 frostalgia wrote:
even with ghosts this would be unstoppable.. zerg op


Simply just dont sit back and let zerg get 7 bases and get the deathball.


Indeed.. if you let zerg make all the drones they want.. take all the geysers they want.. etc. than you shouldn't be surprised when you lose.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1195
On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game three now starting on Metalopolis

Brat_Ok vs Morrow

In the North position is Brat_Ok

While in the right is Morrow


2:00

Barracks on the way for Brat_Ok


2:20

Hatch first for Morrow


3:00

Pool on the way for Morrow
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1196
On June 18 2011 19:54 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:50 pdd wrote:
Pure theorycrafting here just from Bratok Morrow game, but why don't Terran go Battlecruisers once they've got a bit of a Viking count?


Corrupters get +damage vs massive these days, fungal + corruption + corrupter damage would still chew through everything pretty fast.

True, corrupters alone dominate terran air.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1197
On June 18 2011 19:57 Brainiac wrote:
What did D.Kim said about broodlord/infestor? Didn't catch that.

Might be adjusting them in the future.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1198
Maybe this composition is unbeatable. But you have to remember, you just can't get a zerg let that many bases. You are already behind by so much that it is almost impossible to stop. IT would be the same if you have a 7 base Protoss against a 4 base Zerg and keep whining that the deathball keeps rolling you.

You probably made a lot of mistakes on the beginning and are behind by that much, you should lose i that position, even if the ball you are facing seems unstoppable in every way.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1199
On June 18 2011 19:55 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:54 clusen wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:53 Elefanto wrote:
imagine bratok would have gone for ghost and hsm
would be managable O_o

He never had enough bases to switch to something like that


Brat_Ok had a pretty big bank... Raven with PDD vs Broodlords is also unexplored....


unexplored...and patched out of the game.

Hopefully if this next game reaches the latter stages it is a bit more exciting xD
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:58:39
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#1200
On June 18 2011 19:56 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote:
You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for.


He playing in the NA ladder now he is playing against the top not really a suprice


tyler hasn't played a game on his NA account in weeks

he doesn't practice as much as everyone else, you cant ride your bw dominance forever
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