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We will be moderating harshly in this thread. Think twice before you post. Things we are watching for: image macros, balance whining, "eagles", player bashing etc. We encourage civil and reasoned critique of our moderation - please post it in the website feedback forum.

Please don't complain about MLG stream quality or MLG itself. They work very hard to provide you with an enjoyable service.

Enough with the racism discussions, this is a LR Thread. Cut it out.
-- updated 7:55 KST
Ertu
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece686 Posts
June 05 2011 17:00 GMT
#4301
Losira is really good at ZvP but I don't think he has a real shot at winning the tournament,any good terran can take him out ez.
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4302
On June 06 2011 01:59 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:56 ellirc wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:54 aruken wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:48 rainbowbear wrote:
Stream has been perfect for me all weekend and now, championship sunday, it starts going down the drain :S Even the low quality stream is unwatchable as it buffers in every engagement.

Hoping they get it fixed before the grand finals at least!

yes even the LQ freezes all the time, there must be a problem in Columbus.

Will you people stop? The stream hasn't had even ONE hiccup today.

this was the first game where i HAVEN'T had any hiccups


Same for me.
Flaf?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4303
On June 06 2011 01:58 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Great game from Losira. Nani extended himself too much getting that third and got outmacrod and just outplayed the entire game.

It's outextending yourself getting a third when the zerg is getting a 5h base? when you do wait to get a third might i ask?


He got a third when he wasn't prepared. Was completely open to Zergling run-by's and didn't have the units to hold a third in that position. It's not that he should've waited, it's that his early game didn't match up to Losira's. Losira was in the perfect position to abuse Nani because of how the early game played out.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4304
On June 06 2011 01:59 Whalecore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:58 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Benjef wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:51 Jochan wrote:
I love the fact that Naniwa is not trying to do some all-in/cheesy moves. He is playing straight up macro games

he is showing why if you don't chese or do a timing atack (all in) you just lose vs zerg

I kind of agree. It shows Protoss can't win in a straight up macro game. You need to harass, you cannot let Zerg macro like that.

No it shows that Naniwa fell behind significantly in economy and paid the price...

What do you suggest Naniwa doing? Taking a 3rd so he dies even earlier?


Not letting losira take a super fast third and make 70 drones in 9 minures both games helps.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 17:01:40
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4305
On June 06 2011 01:59 Deadlyfish wrote:
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On June 06 2011 01:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
American Ads are so weird and boring...



No? Get real.

No really i love them.


We Indians are known for having the most entertaining ADs.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4306
What annoys me about this is they are showing the championship brack semis, but there are several other good games going on atm and the second stream isnt running.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4307
Losira's game sense is amazing. He knew when to macro, when to produce units and when to tech and got it right all series. Its sad to see Naniwa lose 2-0, but Losira is probably the 2nd best Zerg in Korea, and the world.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 17:02:13
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4308
Zerg has learned to deal with the old early pressure from Ts and Ps, and T and P instead of researching new ways or timings to pressure, just don't pressure at all anymore. That's bad, very bad to try to win a pure macro game vs zerg.
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4309
On June 06 2011 01:58 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:58 Benjef wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:51 Jochan wrote:
I love the fact that Naniwa is not trying to do some all-in/cheesy moves. He is playing straight up macro games

he is showing why if you don't chese or do a timing atack (all in) you just lose vs zerg

I kind of agree. It shows Protoss can't win in a straight up macro game. You need to harass, you cannot let Zerg macro like that.

No it shows that Naniwa fell behind significantly in economy and paid the price...

exacty if you wall in 2 base you have to push hard to deny new zerg bases
En Taro Adun!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4310
Time for Son of Boxer to show his strength.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4311
On June 06 2011 01:58 Azarkon wrote:
That was outclassing.

I'm sorry Naniwa fans, but he does NOT understand PvZ at the level that players Losira understand ZvP.

It's not his micro. It's not his macro. It's not his mechanics (for the most part, though that runby was horrible).

It's his understanding.

Still, I'd say that Naniwa can gain a lot by going to Korea, but he won't be making it through this MLG.

Show me one protoss in korea that "understands" Zerg enough to beat Losira straight up. MC might know the early game better than any Zerg, but I doubt he wins without getting a significant early game advantage.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 17:01:50
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4312
Losira did play really good.
GrimReefer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States442 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4313
what's the point of the 2 streams when we only get to watch one game at a time....?
You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin, I can't sell this sh*t.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4314
On June 06 2011 01:58 blackwolf wrote:
Lol winning just by a-moving and streaming units? Nani played almost perfectly and just got stomped. How the fuck is it possible to beat zerg in pvz?


Can we please for the love of god get the QQ out of these threads... zergs were also saying "how the hell do you stop x" or "omfg this person played perfectly and still lost" and now you're saying it on the flip side. Did you ever think that it is very possible to beat but Nani just got out played? That seems pretty reasonable based off of the experience of the meta game evolving, and one race feeling stronger for some time.

Btw Nani didn't play perfectly, where did he pressure Losira when Losira was macroing?
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4315
internet decided to take a dump.
What is the current store of losira/naniwa?
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4316
On June 06 2011 01:58 SKtheAnathema wrote:
Koreans seem like they play a lot better overseas than at home... wtf? So good

Lol b/c they're not playing against other Koreans.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4317
People calling Z imba after LosirA plays, so delicious.
Big water
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4318
pretty sure losira went up to like 50 drones before making any units that game
Zheega
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia180 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4319
Maybe Protoss will finally start using drops like the other 2 races? You can't just macro against a Zerg for 15 minutes and then attack... You need to harass.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#4320
On June 06 2011 02:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 Whalecore wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Benjef wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:51 Jochan wrote:
I love the fact that Naniwa is not trying to do some all-in/cheesy moves. He is playing straight up macro games

he is showing why if you don't chese or do a timing atack (all in) you just lose vs zerg

I kind of agree. It shows Protoss can't win in a straight up macro game. You need to harass, you cannot let Zerg macro like that.

No it shows that Naniwa fell behind significantly in economy and paid the price...

What do you suggest Naniwa doing? Taking a 3rd so he dies even earlier?

Perhaps doing something during the time Losira is making 1231231 drones ?? You can safely get a third up around the same time as a zerg if he just sits there and masses drones like losira is doing.

Plexa thank you for being the voice of reason
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