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Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4341
On June 06 2011 01:59 Senx wrote:
Naniwa doesn't play abusive enough to beat losira, he's too passive and letting losira do whatever he plans.

Yeah... did you even watch game 1? Naniwa killde a ton of drones, overlords and even 3 queens with stargate build. Np though since losira just countered it by droning hard on 3 bases.
Playgu
AncientSC
Profile Joined June 2011
13 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4342
On June 06 2011 02:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 Whalecore wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Benjef wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:51 Jochan wrote:
I love the fact that Naniwa is not trying to do some all-in/cheesy moves. He is playing straight up macro games

he is showing why if you don't chese or do a timing atack (all in) you just lose vs zerg

I kind of agree. It shows Protoss can't win in a straight up macro game. You need to harass, you cannot let Zerg macro like that.

No it shows that Naniwa fell behind significantly in economy and paid the price...

What do you suggest Naniwa doing? Taking a 3rd so he dies even earlier?

Perhaps doing something during the time Losira is making 1231231 drones ?? You can safely get a third up around the same time as a zerg if he just sits there and masses drones like losira is doing.

Yeah, if he mases drones, but what if he is massing an army ? How can you know what he is doing ?
PhyreHazard
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada298 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4343
Are they going to stream thorzain vs mc?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4344
when are the next matches?
Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4345
Macro > Micro
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4346
Any news on the lower bracket results lately? Did ret take down Major?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4347
On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base


I wish I could just drone up and a-move like that...
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4348
On June 06 2011 01:59 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:58 ZeromuS wrote:
As a protoss all I can say IDK what to do anymore Im gonna stop laddering until this thing is figured out lol Zergs Congratulations you win. You have solved protoss for now just try not get complacent or we will continue to see this 75/25 PvZ flip flop lol I dont think there is a single matchup that shifts so much back and forth so violently as this one :p



Rofl, honestly how dumb are you guys. Stop complaining because the no.1/no.2 ZvPer in the world beat a top foreigner protoss...

lol i agree that obviously just because losira totally outmacro'd nani doesnt really say much about balance, but you have to admit protoss are starting to have a harder and harder time against zerg, not even complaining about it though its just a shift in the metagame 2 months ago it was the same if not worse for zerg ^^
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4349
The only thing missing from MLG is KPOP!!!!!
d=(^_^)z
Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4350
Gretorp just won a game vs QXC

wtf is going on
“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4351
On June 06 2011 01:59 cosmo.6792 wrote:
The first decent opponent Naniwa played this weekend... and he gets 0-2'd.

LosirA > Scrubs from Pool A (Gretorp, Slush, Fenix, Moon)

"decent"? You're acting like it's a surprise, no one contested that Losira is better than those players.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4352
LIKE I SAID in previous post

Naniwa pvz is laughable

Check naniwa vs tlo ( as zerg ) and see how bad he looses , then he goes onto WHINE ZERG ARE OP , asking what can he do cause hes pvz sucks

This wasnt a suprise at all for any1 who is watching the pro scene.

Naniwa has THE WORST PVZ
Krosta
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway437 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4353
MMA - Idra coming up next?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4354
On June 06 2011 02:02 AncientSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:00 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:59 Whalecore wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Benjef wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:51 Jochan wrote:
I love the fact that Naniwa is not trying to do some all-in/cheesy moves. He is playing straight up macro games

he is showing why if you don't chese or do a timing atack (all in) you just lose vs zerg

I kind of agree. It shows Protoss can't win in a straight up macro game. You need to harass, you cannot let Zerg macro like that.

No it shows that Naniwa fell behind significantly in economy and paid the price...

What do you suggest Naniwa doing? Taking a 3rd so he dies even earlier?

Perhaps doing something during the time Losira is making 1231231 drones ?? You can safely get a third up around the same time as a zerg if he just sits there and masses drones like losira is doing.

Yeah, if he mases drones, but what if he is massing an army ? How can you know what he is doing ?

It's not like Protoss is without scouting options.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4355
On June 06 2011 02:00 Ertu wrote:
Losira is really good at ZvP but I don't think he has a real shot at winning the tournament,any good terran can take him out ez.


What? How does he have no good shot? At worst, he is finishing 3rd place. The only Terran that is really top class in this tournament is MMA. ThorZain might be, but he has to go through MC in an extended series where he is down 2-0 and even then, Losira has crushed some foreign terrans this weekend.

Foreigners need Idra to win. Cause if MMA/Losira both make it to the winner finals and MC/July still lurking, it could be over.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Meekee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States46 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4356
You can't in any matchup afford to allow zerg to take that many bases and drone that hard unopposed. Once Losira can get that econ it's all over. Nani didn't pressure, timing attack or harass and Losira read the situation perfectly. GG
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4357
On June 06 2011 02:02 JAN0L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 Deadlyfish wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
American Ads are so weird and boring...



No? Get real.

No really i love them.


even Xperia Play?


Was going to specify the same one.
Terrible commercial.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4358
On June 06 2011 01:59 imareaver3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:57 Finrod1 wrote:
Sad. Broodwar memories all over the place. Seems like the time were foreigners could compete with koreans are finally over, again.



Foreigners can still compete with Koreans, but the very best Koreans (Second-best Korean Zerg) are still better than the very best foreigners.


It isn't to the point where top foreigners can't even compete with b-team and practice partner Korean's but it looks to be slowly getting there.

Foreigners need to recognize they are slowing falling behind, and the mindset of "I'll practice just enough to beat the players in my region" won't cut it when they participate in international tournaments.
Skipvth
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands180 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4359
Ret 2-0 Major
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
June 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4360
On June 06 2011 02:00 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 Senx wrote:
Naniwa doesn't play abusive enough to beat losira, he's too passive and letting losira do whatever he plans.


All the abusive builds of Protoss are already nerfed.


By nerfed you mean completely figured out?
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