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Ertu
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece686 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21141
Losira,showing off his bad ZvT again.
No,,reaching 200 with banelings and a-moving against sieged tanks is not a solid tactic.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21142
Why isn't this a bo5 at the very least? WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYY~~~~~~~~~~

T_T
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Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21143
I'm disappointed that people don't care now that it's only Koreans. MMA is my favorite player, and I really like MC and July too. It's the foreigners that are the most boring to me, tbh.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:12:35
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21144
I can't believe people are actually uninterested in such good games. Don't you want to watch the best sc2 players duke it out? I thought this was the point.
o choro é livre
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21145
On June 06 2011 07:10 brentsen wrote:
Bad engagement by Losira. Maybe overconfidence.


I was thinking that too, Losira didn't seem to have a good read on how large MMA's force actually was. When MMA pushed out, then retreated, there were as many reinforcements as his original army he pushed out with.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21146
On June 06 2011 07:10 Beyonder wrote:
Although not as dramatic, we're truly seeing 3 of the top players MMA and MC especially. I really hope MMA wins though, I want him in code S! (winner gets it regardless of where hes from)

Wrong, it was discussed already, go here http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21147
Zerg goes whoops.
Swift as the wind, felt before noticed.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21148
On June 06 2011 07:11 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


So we just disallow Koreans and crown paper champions?

OH LOOK! IDRA WINS MLG ANAHEIM! HE'S THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

If the Koreans aren't allowed to come, every champion will just be a paper champion that won't be considered the best because of the competition. If the foreigners want to get better, they need to play the best in the world.


Seriously, maybe if Koreans start dominating our tournaments, foreign players will decide to finally practice as well as they do overall.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21149
So MMA gets Code S regardless?

LosirA is Code S
MC is Code S
MMA is Code A
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21150
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


You're making it too obvious now.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21151
On June 06 2011 07:12 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:11 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:10 bkrow wrote:
Go go go MMA!

Poor decision making from Losira though

He didn't plan his baneling nest to go down. ;/


He transitioned into losing his baneling nest...

and then transitioned into losing his whole fucking base!
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21152
On June 06 2011 07:10 Mailing wrote:
Losira not very good in macro games... all his wins are roach/ling attacks :X

Losira isn't bad at macro games. But what he's known for is making full use of his speedlings. I cannot tell you the number of games where I watched him keep a small force of speedlings to somehow harass the main and naturals of his opponents, even if they have walls. He's very active with those speedlings.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21153
On June 06 2011 07:11 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


So we just disallow Koreans and crown paper champions?

OH LOOK! IDRA WINS MLG ANAHEIM! HE'S THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

If the Koreans aren't allowed to come, every champion will just be a paper champion that won't be considered the best because of the competition. If the foreigners want to get better, they need to play the best in the world.

Yep. If foreigners want their scene to have as much validity as the Korean scene they need to start practicing like the koreans.
Dodge arrows
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21154
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


in that case, they should ban the europeans like naniwa from coming too.

any top 40 korean or top 15 european can easily beat americans like kiwikaki and select in their sleep.
Sajiki
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany522 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21155
On June 06 2011 06:47 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:45 mordk wrote:
I think we can take some conclusions from MLG now:

1.- Koreans are the better SC2 players: All koreans (except for moon) performed very well on pool play, while dealing with jetlag. Koreans in the championship bracket were only eliminated by koreans. Top 3 is all-korean. I think it's proof enough, even if I think the foreigner pool could be a bit stronger, I don't think the results would be too different.

2.- Nani is best foreigner protoss, hands down. Idra's position as best foreigner zerg is kinda doubtful, you can't be the best with that terrible mindset.

3.- Thorzain is a great player and TSL3 wasn't a fluke at all. Sheth shows TONS of promise, as do Major and ViBe, for the foreigner scene.

4.- Koreans are better showmakers as far as gaming stuff go. This whole "MC SO BM" thing is ridiculous, he's putting up a show. This is why MC's "BM" is different from idra's. He uses it to entertain the crowd, not to randomly dish shit like Idra does all the time. We could see how MC actually feels about his opponents. He very respectfully hand shook with nani and moon, and probably T-zain as well.

5.- Tastosis is funnier that Day/WHEAT, but the latter can make games a little more exciting.

6.- This was, all in all, a GREAT EVENT. Props to MLG for surviving the Dallas disaster and becoming a lot better. Really, congratulations, you've shown balls.


Agree 100%

quoted for awesomeness
feature this post :D
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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21156
I want MMA to win because he needs Code S more than the other players.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#21157
On June 06 2011 07:12 Telcontar wrote:
Why isn't this a bo5 at the very least? WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYY~~~~~~~~~~

T_T


MLG rules.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
June 05 2011 22:13 GMT
#21158
On June 06 2011 07:12 AlBundy wrote:
I can't believe people are actually uninterested in such good games. Don't you want to watch the best sc2 players duke it out? I thought this was the point.


It is the point. Those people are idiots.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 05 2011 22:13 GMT
#21159
no mutas vs cliffed siege tanks is pretty gg ^^
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
June 05 2011 22:13 GMT
#21160
On June 06 2011 07:10 Hikari wrote:
I feel like losira threw away his army by running in a circle around tanks =S


Yeah Im pretty sure that is not a good thing to do
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