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We will be moderating harshly in this thread. Think twice before you post. Things we are watching for: image macros, balance whining, "eagles", player bashing etc. We encourage civil and reasoned critique of our moderation - please post it in the website feedback forum.

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Flycycle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20361
Losira fighting!
Simplicity is the greatest form of Sophistication.
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20362
Does MMA get to code S if he wins?
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20363
On June 06 2011 06:39 pyro19 wrote:
Hydra + Ling would have raped Stalkers - Blink or no Blink

Hydras alone will never win you a match.


+1

I was really scared when I was looking at the hydras being massed... Isn't this obvious that hydras needs tanks for damage absorbing??? That's is why you have roaches... or even lings... Why Idra haven't built any of them??? I don't get it. Idra concentrates all the time on his mechanics and on things to blame (himself, imbalance) and in the end he misses the important concepts of the game... Hydras need tanks!
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20364
can anyone link me to MC's victory lap after he beat thorzain? the one where he flicks idra off...hahaha
.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20365
I wonder if Tastosis will now slip up after there are only Koreans left and start announcing the matches as GSL matches.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20366
I think we can take some conclusions from MLG now:

1.- Koreans are the better SC2 players: All koreans (except for moon) performed very well on pool play, while dealing with jetlag. Koreans in the championship bracket were only eliminated by koreans. Top 3 is all-korean. I think it's proof enough, even if I think the foreigner pool could be a bit stronger, I don't think the results would be too different.

2.- Nani is best foreigner protoss, hands down. Idra's position as best foreigner zerg is kinda doubtful, you can't be the best with that terrible mindset.

3.- Thorzain is a great player and TSL3 wasn't a fluke at all. Sheth shows TONS of promise, as do Major and ViBe, for the foreigner scene.

4.- Koreans are better showmakers as far as gaming stuff go. This whole "MC SO BM" thing is ridiculous, he's putting up a show. This is why MC's "BM" is different from idra's. He uses it to entertain the crowd, not to randomly dish shit like Idra does all the time. We could see how MC actually feels about his opponents. He very respectfully hand shook with nani and moon, and probably T-zain as well.

5.- Tastosis is funnier that Day/WHEAT, but the latter can make games a little more exciting.

6.- This was, all in all, a GREAT EVENT. Props to MLG for surviving the Dallas disaster and becoming a lot better. Really, congratulations, you've shown balls.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20367
On June 06 2011 06:42 Huragius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:41 ccHaZaRd wrote:
only 1 terran in top 8 and its the korean


I know ! Let's start a whine, shall we ?! :D

You're a disgrace for The Dominion, go join The Swarm and whine there.
mpf189
Profile Joined March 2011
332 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20368
On June 06 2011 06:45 Devolved wrote:
Ah, true Americans. Beer and food are what they miss most.


That's true of any sane country.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20369
Tasteless is having a bit too much fun.
I had a good night of sleep.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20370
I'm watching DayJ and Wheaty
No logo (logo)
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20371
On June 06 2011 06:44 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:43 Tyree wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:37 Elem wrote:
UGh. Why, Idra. Why. He could've easily shattered the Korean top 3 and even win MLG. But then this. Completely fucked up my MLG experience.


Not even close, he clearly cannot compete with them when it matters, it was shown in GSL and its shown now.

Its fine being a fan of a player but fabricating some sort of false legacy around your favorite player is just setting up for dissapointment at the next tournament.

Idra is not LeBron James of Starcraft, he is Carlos Boozer, decent player on form when he plays well but otherwise not a top tier player



You do understand that the players here at MLG at easily the top 16 Code S players right? IdrA is still better than 95% of the korean progamers.

....

Top 16 Code S? I find that very hard to believe lol
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
aycheff
Profile Joined February 2010
United States329 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20372
MMA goooooooooooooo!
hf // yeahyeahyeahhh // Y.S-Y
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20373
Wow can't believe MC won on that horrible map. So good ^_^
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20374
"Would you please scream for me?"

That's what he said?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
BlazingInferno
Profile Joined November 2010
India272 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20375
Not QQing but I really am surprised that people think pure Hydras beat blink stalkers with upgrades. Plus he missed his fungal on a few stalkers who were able to blink forward.

I am no high-level player but I use Stalkers a lot. I tried the same thing in one game and instead of a pure hydra army, my opponent went for about 60% roaches and 40% hydras. Roaches tanked and dealt shitload of damage, hydras dealt shitload of damage and I got fucked.

Hydras are not tanks. They need to be supported by units that can tank damage like roaches or even a bunch of lings. They have 80 health for Gods sake.
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
June 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#20376
This MLG has been awesome, but seriously

Sean, Nick and Dan tri-cast.

Make it happen.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
June 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#20377
On June 06 2011 06:44 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:43 Tyree wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:37 Elem wrote:
UGh. Why, Idra. Why. He could've easily shattered the Korean top 3 and even win MLG. But then this. Completely fucked up my MLG experience.


Not even close, he clearly cannot compete with them when it matters, it was shown in GSL and its shown now.

Its fine being a fan of a player but fabricating some sort of false legacy around your favorite player is just setting up for dissapointment at the next tournament.

Idra is not LeBron James of Starcraft, he is Carlos Boozer, decent player on form when he plays well but otherwise not a top tier player



You do understand that the players here at MLG at easily the top 16 Code S players right? IdrA is still better than 95% of the korean progamers.

no he's not, it just has been proven.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#20378
1 2 3

KOREA HWAITING!
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
June 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#20379
feel so baaaaad for idra. :'/ you still got a sweet ass gf so keep on ballin idra
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#20380
On June 06 2011 06:45 VenerableSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:44 flodeskum wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:29 Karthane wrote:
I still don't really get what happened. Infestor hydra should have destroyed that..

Or just ling hydra like in losira vs nani.

I don't understand how mc won it, dts did something but most of the time the hydras will clean that up. MC did have some superb blink micro (before that in-yo-face blink) which will have helped.

I still think that rallying lings to the front in that fight (and having detection) could have won that fight for idra.

I can't wait to see that replay tbh.



upgraded dt's were attacking his hydras with no detection nearby i think.

On June 06 2011 06:39 youngminii wrote:
PLEASE stop talking about how Hydra/Infestor is horrible against Stalkers. This has NOTHING to do with balance, Idra engaged that all wrong.

The engagement was absolutely horrible with about 1/4 of the Hydra attacking about 1/4 of the Stalkers, but the Stalkers kept blinking back so while the Hydras went down, none of the Stalkers did. MC also had DTs in there which rip Hydras up. He also had the upgrades. IdrA had a bunch of Infestors in the back doing NOTHING. You don't fungal the Stalkers AFTER they've already micro'd and killed half your Hydra count, you have to fungal them from the very start so that they can't reposition/blink micro to begin with.

IdrA completely failed that engagement. IT'S NOT A BALANCE ISSUE.

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