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fone
Profile Joined June 2011
193 Posts
June 12 2011 22:51 GMT
#2181
On June 13 2011 07:51 Intricacy wrote:
MorroW is BACK online. We're setting up the game now.

Nice!
dumplings
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany298 Posts
June 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#2182
Hearing those themes i wanna put in:

Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe

Please don't leave! The drones need you! They're looking up to you!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
June 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#2183
On June 13 2011 07:48 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 07:46 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:43 Pochtli wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:42 Sqalevon wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:41 TheBB wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:40 Sqalevon wrote:
Did Morrow switch back to Terran, or is this an one time thing ?
I just tuned in and was rather suprised.

He's apparently decided to play TvZ consistently.


Because he doesn't like ZvZ ?
Fair enough.

Do tournaments allow this ?
That's intresting.


Some allow and some don't. He feels like ZvZ is too chancy so he prefers TvZ.


which is quite hilarious with the single most dominating Player + MU being NesTea in ZvZ and him getting destroyed 0-4 just 2 weeks prior by Nerchio.

me feels like it's him just being plain bad, which isn't a shameful thing, knowing when to drone is very hard in ZvZ.



NesTea has only played 16 ZvZ in pro matches, and many of them were close. As times goes on his win rate will only drop.

He is still the best in the MU, but look at BW ZvZ

Besides Jaedong, would you rather play ZvZ or ZvT?

SC2 zvz is nothing like SC1 zvz.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
June 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#2184
On June 13 2011 07:50 Presidenten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 07:49 Mr_Shado wrote:

On June 13 2011 07:42 Sqalevon wrote:


Because he doesn't like ZvZ ?
Fair enough.

Do tournaments allow this ?
That's intresting.




NASL allows this, I saw Goody switch to protos once. Some don't cuz people prepare builds ahead of time and if your opponent switches it really screws with them.



Dreamhack allows it, big thing in favour of MorroW there


shouldnt be allowed anywhere tbh

its not like u have to know all matchups to race pick, you need to know just one and it already gives u massive advantage

Stork[gm]
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 22:53 GMT
#2185
go nerchio!!!!!!!
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 12 2011 22:53 GMT
#2186
On June 13 2011 07:48 elbooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 07:43 Mailing wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:42 Sqalevon wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:41 TheBB wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:40 Sqalevon wrote:
Did Morrow switch back to Terran, or is this an one time thing ?
I just tuned in and was rather suprised.

He's apparently decided to play TvZ consistently.


Because he doesn't like ZvZ ?
Fair enough.

Do tournaments allow this ?
That's intresting.


They should allow it imo.

Being able to play more than one race competently should be an advantage that a player earns.

The whole "other player doesn't get to prepare" is a lame excuse, they should be able to play all matchups.


it shouldn't be allowed, there would be non-stop race-switching if people wanted to play a certain matchup (for example if nerchio didnt like zvt and wanted to pvt instead, but then morrow wanted to zvp, so nerchio went back to zvz....where does that stop?)


Uhm, make them pick without knowing their opponents race pick. It's not rocket science...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 22:54:11
June 12 2011 22:53 GMT
#2187
WHAT

PLAY IT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

seriously

ah ok, ... delay server ftw
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Burpies
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada409 Posts
June 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#2188
Looks like the stream delay is working.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
June 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#2189
Awhh! IM TUNING IN! ^__^... TROLOLO?

YE?... YES!!! :D Woho!
Liquid
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
June 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#2190
lol the stream delay works :D
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
June 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#2191
how unfortunate to reschedule
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
June 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#2192
On June 13 2011 07:52 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 07:50 Presidenten wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:49 Mr_Shado wrote:

On June 13 2011 07:42 Sqalevon wrote:


Because he doesn't like ZvZ ?
Fair enough.

Do tournaments allow this ?
That's intresting.




NASL allows this, I saw Goody switch to protos once. Some don't cuz people prepare builds ahead of time and if your opponent switches it really screws with them.



Dreamhack allows it, big thing in favour of MorroW there


shouldnt be allowed anywhere tbh

its not like u have to know all matchups to race pick, you need to know just one and it already gives u massive advantage



Well, obviously you have to state before you enter a tournament that you are going to play ZvT ZvT and TvZ. Then everyone will know exactly what matchups to prepare for. I am all for allowing racepicking in tournaments as long as you make it clear before you enter the competition which matchups you are going to play, ie not allowing changing during the run of the tournament.
Really, play for fun!
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
June 12 2011 22:54 GMT
#2193
--- Nuked ---
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
June 12 2011 22:55 GMT
#2194
and is back!!
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
June 12 2011 22:55 GMT
#2195
Race picking doesn't really give you an advantage though. If I play P, I need to know PvP, PvZ, PvT. If my Protoss opponent decides he doesn't like PvP and plays TvP instead, I still know how to play PvT.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 22:55 GMT
#2196
shouldnt have bet so much money lmfao

im way too excited
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
lukec1996
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
June 12 2011 22:55 GMT
#2197
On June 13 2011 07:51 Intricacy wrote:
MorroW is BACK online. We're setting up the game now.

Hmmm, the stream is a little behind becuz I just heard the bing from BNET and TB is just acknowledging it
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
June 12 2011 22:55 GMT
#2198
On June 13 2011 07:54 Burpies wrote:
Looks like the stream delay is working.

Lol, yeah, I was just thinking the same thing.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
June 12 2011 22:55 GMT
#2199
Just another reminder, MorroW is BACK. We are setting up the game right now. Stay tuned!
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
June 12 2011 22:56 GMT
#2200
On June 13 2011 07:54 ZpuX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 07:52 bgx wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:50 Presidenten wrote:
On June 13 2011 07:49 Mr_Shado wrote:

On June 13 2011 07:42 Sqalevon wrote:


Because he doesn't like ZvZ ?
Fair enough.

Do tournaments allow this ?
That's intresting.




NASL allows this, I saw Goody switch to protos once. Some don't cuz people prepare builds ahead of time and if your opponent switches it really screws with them.



Dreamhack allows it, big thing in favour of MorroW there


shouldnt be allowed anywhere tbh

its not like u have to know all matchups to race pick, you need to know just one and it already gives u massive advantage



Well, obviously you have to state before you enter a tournament that you are going to play ZvT ZvT and TvZ. Then everyone will know exactly what matchups to prepare for. I am all for allowing racepicking in tournaments as long as you make it clear before you enter the competition which matchups you are going to play, ie not allowing changing during the run of the tournament.


It's just like switch hitters in baseball, they don't have to tell the ump they are batting right handed this game, or even that at-bat, they can switch after each pitch if they want.
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