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Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1101
On May 25 2011 20:33 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:26 Savern101 wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:22 Heavenly wrote:
So much for it being hard for terran to beat protoss late game. Obviously Boxer was the better player here but people who say PvT lategame is imbalanced are silly.


I would never call it Imbalanced, but once you hit a certain point in the game, when a protoss is on 3+ base, with upgrades, HT, collosi, I feel like the Terran player has to completely outclass the Toss to win. Like Boxer just did to Genius.

Well that probably is true if the terran is staying on MMMVG only.

But then again, the opposite would also be true if protoss players would try to counter some sort of heavy mech + starport play with only gateway units.


Late game Terrans really don't have that many options. If a toss has gone Chargelot heavy, I can imagine some sort of BC transition might be viable, but its risky, as they're so vulnerable to feedbacks. You either need to make sure you EMP HT, or EMP your own BC's. The reason terrans end up on 3/3 marauders late game is because it, currently anyway, feels the most viable option. I'm not saying its the only option - I'm waiting for a Terran Spanishiwa to change it all, A messiah if you will.

I still think terrans need to use blue fame hellions more. But they're really fragile, require lots of micro, but someone like Boxer would do wonders with them I'm sure.
But terran just doesn't have the t3 powerhouse units like Toss does.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Teael
Profile Joined February 2011
United States724 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1102
On May 25 2011 20:38 xza wrote:
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On May 25 2011 20:37 Heavenly wrote:
I've always wanted to do a build like this, chargelots with armor upgrades are so good versus terran minus kiting and you can forcefield behind them to prevent that. If you're pumping pure zealots you could probably produce out of 7-8 gates on 2 base, that's just a ton of zealots every 30 seconds.


thats right, mass zealot even with emp is hard to deal with.

i've been preaching this for months so here goes

The counter to upgraded zealots is BLUE FLAME HELLIONS.


Unfortunately the counter to blue flame hellion is pretty much everything else
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1103
On May 25 2011 20:39 MrCon wrote:
I can't be there for the last match, I'll post the polls numbers so someone can post them so I can update the thread when I'm back in 30 minutes.
game 1 : 21805
2 : 21806
3 : 21807
Just one person has to add the "poll" tags around them after the game so I can update op, thanks


Does anybody know how to do that?
I would but i have NO idea :/
WinteRR
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia201 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1104
Even with boxer's army there that wasn't going to stop that +2 armor chargelot/sentry build.It is really strong.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1105
This series was very reactive - A wins, B counters, A counters the counter. If Boxer won the first game, it was probably going to be 2-1 for him in the end.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Iron.Fist
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil268 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1106
If Min gets knocked out today might be the worst SlayerS day @ individual leagues
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1107
On May 25 2011 20:40 Medrea wrote:
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On May 25 2011 20:39 Beardedclam wrote:
Genius didn't do a celebration. He probably respects Boxer too much.


He bowed his head to the emperor though, much respect for other people also giving respect.


That's cuz Boxer is his senior.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1108
Pirate birds Defy physics
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#1109
Kinda sucks Keen/Violet/Genius are all in the same side of the bracket. Only one of them, at best, could get to the Final 4.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1110
On May 25 2011 20:39 Beardedclam wrote:
Genius didn't do a celebration. He probably respects Boxer too much.


I doubt u'll ever see anyone do a celebration after winning against boxer..even if you are fbh
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1111
Oh BoxeR :/
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1112
On May 25 2011 20:40 opaqueNZ wrote:
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On May 25 2011 20:37 Mercury- wrote:
Man, sucks that's such a nice bo3 ends with a warpgate all-in.


I love how the term "all in" is used whenever someone attacks without making 90 workers on 5 base >_<

Timing attack =/= all in


Any attack that beats your favorite player is an all in, is the way I definite it on the forums :-/

And any early aggression against your favorite player is Cheese.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Wandering Shepherd
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia7 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1113
On May 25 2011 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
[image loading]


cArn? and Wolf I believe.

Also, studio didn't look very crowded.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1114
pirate bird is the greatest pirate ever, not even ninjas might be enough to take him down
Do you really want chat rooms?
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1115
On May 25 2011 20:39 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:37 SxYSpAz wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:36 Deekin[ wrote:
I really dislike protoss, but that was an epic game, wp Genius.

that wasn't epic, it was a Build order lost, when is that ever epic? it was just a smart choice

How on earth is that a BO loss wtf. Boxer had tons of time to scout.

the goal of boxers BO was an auto lose to th goal of genius BO.... Tastosis basically said the same thing
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1116
People think that because blue flame helions are the cost effective unit there that they need to make 4 factories with reactors pumping them out or its USELESS. Bad.
twitch.tv/medrea
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1117
Lol.. they spent 2 or so minutes talking about Pirate Bird and they're not even getting into the matches.


HAHA AND THEY'RE STILL GOING AT IT>
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1118
Meh, too bad, genius ain't nearly as entertaining, I enjoyed gold leaguers from NA bashing boxer when this guy will probably have better army control when he reaches 40 than the entire server :D.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1119
On May 25 2011 20:41 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:40 Medrea wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:39 Beardedclam wrote:
Genius didn't do a celebration. He probably respects Boxer too much.


He bowed his head to the emperor though, much respect for other people also giving respect.


That's cuz Boxer is his senior.


very respectful of genius :D
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
May 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1120
Junkka Junior, rofl, looks so...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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