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Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
May 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#1141
Slayers or July? WHO DO I ROOT FOR?!
aka ilovesharkpeople
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#1142
On May 25 2011 20:44 Drazerk wrote:
Match 4 -

Min vs July

First match will be on Crevasse


Match now starting

Min is located in the Top right conner

July is located in the bottom left
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#1143
On May 25 2011 20:43 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:38 xza wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:37 Heavenly wrote:
I've always wanted to do a build like this, chargelots with armor upgrades are so good versus terran minus kiting and you can forcefield behind them to prevent that. If you're pumping pure zealots you could probably produce out of 7-8 gates on 2 base, that's just a ton of zealots every 30 seconds.


thats right, mass zealot even with emp is hard to deal with.

i've been preaching this for months so here goes

The counter to upgraded zealots is BLUE FLAME HELLIONS.


Wouldn't a large number of ghosts also help out a lot with that if for some reason the factory tech wasn't working? Ghosts do great, front-loaded damage to light units that on paper looks like it should be pretty good against fast armor. No idea how you'd get them out in time, or what kind of marauder count you'd need to help tank for the ghosts.

Or if my whole idea is just a bunch of theorycrafting nonsense from the underslept.


but when you get that much zealots ghosts dont deal enough damage to kill zealots. i play terran and i was very surprised when i took 6 Blue flame hellions and added it into my bio ball and suddenly you see 3-4 zealots dying in 1 or 2 volleys. it is fragile against stalkers/colo but with progamers caliber of micro they could make it work.
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
May 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#1144
July looks like he's going to eat Min in that picture.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1145
OMG july has a black and all red keyboard :O GOD OF WAR INDEED
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1146
On May 25 2011 20:44 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:38 xza wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:37 Heavenly wrote:
I've always wanted to do a build like this, chargelots with armor upgrades are so good versus terran minus kiting and you can forcefield behind them to prevent that. If you're pumping pure zealots you could probably produce out of 7-8 gates on 2 base, that's just a ton of zealots every 30 seconds.


thats right, mass zealot even with emp is hard to deal with.

i've been preaching this for months so here goes

The counter to upgraded zealots is BLUE FLAME HELLIONS.


U do not need to preach for months, it is on Blizzard website. Hellion is strong against Zealot, Zergling and Marine. Maybe all light units?


Only build I can think of that can beat Genius Build is LZGamer's 3 fact build against Toss. 2 Reactor BF hellion into tank/thor
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1147
On May 25 2011 20:45 Haydin wrote:
Slayers or July? WHO DO I ROOT FOR?!

Slayers... rule of thumb
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1148
On May 25 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:44 Drazerk wrote:
Match 4 -

Min vs July

First match will be on Crevasse


Match now starting

Min is located in the Top right conner

July is located in the bottom left


2:10

Both players are getting their expansions
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1149
On May 25 2011 20:46 SxYSpAz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:45 Haydin wrote:
Slayers or July? WHO DO I ROOT FOR?!

Slayers... rule of thumb

after boxer lost? :/
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1150
Hmm..if min doesnt win this, slayers have lost all their three players today.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#1151
On May 25 2011 20:34 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:27 Drazerk wrote:
Game three starting on Terminus Re

Genius is located at the 12

Boxer is located at the 3

Series is tied 1-1


3:30

Conc shell starting for boxer

Warp gates starting for Genius


4:30

Expansion on the way for boxer


5:45

Stim starting for boxer as his expansion finishes

Warp gate and expansion almost done for Genius with a forge just starting


6:20

Twilight council finishes for genius

stim and +1 bio weapons starting for boxer

Genius does not have a robo bay so is forced to place cannons in his mineral lines


10:00

Genius is getting +2 armour and charge

He has a large amount of sentries and zellets at the zel naga as boxer goes to do a double drop


zellets? zel'naga? uhh...

Genius fighting!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#1152
On May 25 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:44 Drazerk wrote:
Match 4 -

Min vs July

First match will be on Crevasse


Match now starting

Min is located in the Top right conner

July is located in the bottom left


2:10

Both players are getting their expansions


2:40

July opted for a gas before his spawning pool while Min got his spawning pool first and is now pumping out some lings
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 11:48:09
May 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#1153
On May 25 2011 20:45 Haydin wrote:
Slayers or July? WHO DO I ROOT FOR?!


Min or July? Which Player should i taaaaaaaaaaaake?
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
May 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#1154
On May 25 2011 20:46 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:34 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:27 Drazerk wrote:
Game three starting on Terminus Re

Genius is located at the 12

Boxer is located at the 3

Series is tied 1-1


3:30

Conc shell starting for boxer

Warp gates starting for Genius


4:30

Expansion on the way for boxer


5:45

Stim starting for boxer as his expansion finishes

Warp gate and expansion almost done for Genius with a forge just starting


6:20

Twilight council finishes for genius

stim and +1 bio weapons starting for boxer

Genius does not have a robo bay so is forced to place cannons in his mineral lines


10:00

Genius is getting +2 armour and charge

He has a large amount of sentries and zellets at the zel naga as boxer goes to do a double drop


zellets? zel'naga? uhh...

Genius fighting!


He meant Xel naga and Xelots :p
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
May 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#1155
On May 25 2011 20:46 SxYSpAz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:45 Haydin wrote:
Slayers or July? WHO DO I ROOT FOR?!

Slayers... rule of thumb


Pfft no, July all the way.

All the time.
Love is more fun than hate.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#1156
On May 25 2011 20:43 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:38 xza wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:37 Heavenly wrote:
I've always wanted to do a build like this, chargelots with armor upgrades are so good versus terran minus kiting and you can forcefield behind them to prevent that. If you're pumping pure zealots you could probably produce out of 7-8 gates on 2 base, that's just a ton of zealots every 30 seconds.


thats right, mass zealot even with emp is hard to deal with.

i've been preaching this for months so here goes

The counter to upgraded zealots is BLUE FLAME HELLIONS.


Wouldn't a large number of ghosts also help out a lot with that if for some reason the factory tech wasn't working? Ghosts do great, front-loaded damage to light units that on paper looks like it should be pretty good against fast armor. No idea how you'd get them out in time, or what kind of marauder count you'd need to help tank for the ghosts.

Or if my whole idea is just a bunch of theorycrafting nonsense from the underslept.

It definitely seems like hellions as a core unit is somewhat unexplored, especially given the current metagame. Most PvT builds are zealot heavy once you start to move away from the early game(because of how effectively stimmed marauders deal with stalkers), and it seems like they're cheap enough to be relatively expendable. People keep arguing that mech is useless, but it seems like a blue flame hellion/tank/viking/ghost composition is, on paper at least, solid.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#1157
JULY the GOD OF WAR
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
May 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#1158
Come on Min! Bring Boxer some happiness
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
May 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#1159
Oh wow, Min getting the high yield gas first, definitely stealing this idea.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 25 2011 11:49 GMT
#1160
5-minute lair... what are you doing, July?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
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