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Mapleleaf
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada46 Posts
May 23 2011 03:34 GMT
#1281
Closeing words coming up guys!
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 23 2011 03:34 GMT
#1282
On May 23 2011 12:34 Hazu~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:33 SEANSYE wrote:
IdrA gives Koreans way too much credit, IMO. If it was a foreigner I'm pretty sure he would have raged.


What a useless comment to make. Talk about the game or go post somewhere else.


what foreigner could have done what zenio did? there might be 1 foreigner zerg other then idra who could compete?
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
May 23 2011 03:34 GMT
#1283
very bizarre 2nd game

i think zenio knows something about ZvZ and infestors that idra doesnt? idk the game confused me lol
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1284
On May 23 2011 12:32 Kazang wrote:
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On May 23 2011 12:29 Gentso wrote:
I don't think Idra has good ZvZ practice in the states! Well played by Zenio, one of the most entertaining ZvZ's I've seen in a while.


That's what it looked like. Korean Zergs seem to be ahead of the curve a bit.

GGs


is it true that idra does not practice as much compared to the Koreans? he keeps saying he doesnt need to practice a lot to keep in shape. that kinds like bs to me. you need to practice and practice like mad.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1285
On May 23 2011 12:34 jj33 wrote:
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On May 23 2011 12:31 Hazu~ wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Idra's ZvZ is awful it seems


IdrA himself said he wasn't so sure about his ZvZ since there's pretty much no good zerg player on NA server to play against.



thing is Idra said he'd 2-0 zenio


you mean that someone said they thought they'd win....

...and then they were wrong? :O that never happens
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Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1286
On May 23 2011 12:30 AndAgain wrote:
It's because Idra has been playing on NA server. Give Zenio zero credit.

(That's what Idra will say on SOTG)

Well, it indeed plays a huge role.

IdrA from position one to fifth :O
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1287
On May 23 2011 12:32 mango_destroyer wrote:
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On May 23 2011 12:30 MrCon wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:29 Serpico wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:29 Proko wrote:
Zenio's ZvZ is way more developed than IdrA's

mass infestors is very creative indeed.

Not sure if this was sarcastic, but actually it is. At least this was the first mass infestor ZvZ I saw.


I agree, I rarely ever see anyone go straight into infestors. He threw down the roach warren so late.


Root.Destiny had a 1base infestor build that looked a lot like this, but not nearly as many infestors late game. I've also only seen him do it in on Xelnaga Caverns
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seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1288
On May 23 2011 12:34 Hazu~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:33 SEANSYE wrote:
IdrA gives Koreans way too much credit, IMO. If it was a foreigner I'm pretty sure he would have raged.


What a useless comment to make. Talk about the game or go post somewhere else.



Okay?? I'm commenting on the possible reason why IdrA might have lost... LOL
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jgoonld
Profile Joined November 2010
334 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1289
That was just...weird for idra. Just strangely bad mechanics. Idk how to judge zenio's play because idra basically just threw the whole game away with both his micro and macro.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1290
On May 23 2011 12:34 Maskedsatyr wrote:
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On May 23 2011 12:30 Essentia wrote:
Idra threw that 2nd game away completely with terrible micro and trickling roaches into the battle.

It was Idras fault not that Zenio "outplayed" him in the 2nd game at least.

The trickling of the roaches was to bait out the fungals. It seemed like a great idea at that time but zenio had great control make best use of his infestors.


Against 2-3 infestors, I agree it would've been a decent idea. However, he could clearly see the 10 infestors as Zenio did not hide them. In that case, it was a bad decision.
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Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#1291
On May 23 2011 12:34 Maskedsatyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:30 Essentia wrote:
Idra threw that 2nd game away completely with terrible micro and trickling roaches into the battle.

It was Idras fault not that Zenio "outplayed" him in the 2nd game at least.

The trickling of the roaches was to bait out the fungals. It seemed like a great idea at that time but zenio had great control make best use of his infestors.


It was still a good idea, but Zenio just had so many infestors it didn't make that big of a dent compared to the roaches lost. If Zenio had no fungals left for that big engagement, IdrA would likely have won. The potential was there but too many infestors, and Zenio played it very well
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Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
May 23 2011 03:36 GMT
#1292
On May 23 2011 12:34 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:31 Hazu~ wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Idra's ZvZ is awful it seems


IdrA himself said he wasn't so sure about his ZvZ since there's pretty much no good zerg player on NA server to play against.



thing is Idra said he'd 2-0 zenio



So what? Many players make predictions like this, but you guys only bring them back when IdrA's losing.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 23 2011 03:36 GMT
#1293
On May 23 2011 12:33 SEANSYE wrote:
IdrA gives Koreans way too much credit, IMO. If it was a foreigner I'm pretty sure he would have raged.



what would he rage about? It's a mirror, there is no imbalance in a mirror. He got outmacroed, outmicroed in game 1.

in game 2, despite zenio's failure to do any real damage with this early pool, he caught up and outplayed idra.

not much to rage about
cold-
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada209 Posts
May 23 2011 03:36 GMT
#1294
zenio played superbly... u cant name one flaw in his gameplay. hope idra takes notes and learns from this.
quiet noise
Profile Joined May 2011
599 Posts
May 23 2011 03:36 GMT
#1295
Idra should have spend that 1.5 floating minerals on spine crawlers. they actually counter infestors very well.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
May 23 2011 03:37 GMT
#1296
Damn, was leaving work and didn't get the idra games on my jtv ipod app, sounds like they were good
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 23 2011 03:37 GMT
#1297
Interesting

Zenio has NEVER lost a best or 3 ZvZ except against NesTea.

He always brings some interesting strats (mass overseers, 1 base infestor turtle)

He is probably the second best ZvZ in the world.
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Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 03:38:42
May 23 2011 03:37 GMT
#1298

Gretorp: "Beautiful girlfriend

Incontrol: She is beautiful

Gretorp: She's also Asian"


that wasn't creepy at all guys
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 23 2011 03:37 GMT
#1299
On May 23 2011 12:35 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:34 jj33 wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:31 Hazu~ wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Idra's ZvZ is awful it seems


IdrA himself said he wasn't so sure about his ZvZ since there's pretty much no good zerg player on NA server to play against.



thing is Idra said he'd 2-0 zenio


you mean that someone said they thought they'd win....

...and then they were wrong? :O that never happens


If idra said he's awful in zvz, yet he says he would 2-0 zenio. it's called eating your own words.

idra has a history of being extremely cocky etc, take it in context. seems like you're a bitter idra fan.

garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 23 2011 03:37 GMT
#1300
hahaha Gretorp, killing me.
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