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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
December 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#5881
Anyone know when RO8 is starting?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
December 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#5882
On December 10 2011 13:02 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 13:00 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:47 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:42 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
for fucks sake why cant huk just play a standard game. so frustrating to watch. maybe that kind of stuff is needed to beat koreans but vs foreigners he should always just play standard and rely on his superior macro and micro to win


Well he was in a very difficult position there. He had to make something happen so he tried, but it didn't work.

well he could have just taken his first zealot and killed the engineering bay that was only starting at his expo. i feel like he plays his best when he plays a macro game. certainly vs foreigners he is a level of skill above the majority of them so i dont understand why he doesnt just play standard until he maxes.


But he didn't notice the engineering bay for ages. His zealot and 2 stalkers were both rallied straight down to the natural of Kas.

well once again he tried to bite off more than he could chew with his aggressiveness. his money was at like 900 during those early micro stages (although that might have been partly due to an unbuilt nexus because he thought it was building) and he had no gates building. is it just me or are all his recent gsl wins been due to him playing a macro game? and all his recent tourney losses are him messing up with foolish aggressiveness?
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#5883
Yep those 3. Right after those come many names like:
Lyn, Remind, Infi, ToD, Creolophus, TeD, Lucifer, Fly, TH000, SoJu probably.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#5884
On December 10 2011 13:05 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Are there any WC3 bonjwas?

Jang Jae Ho aka Spirit_Moon aka AndroJang aka Fantasista aka Jangbonjwa is the one & the only
illumn
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand437 Posts
December 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#5885
On December 10 2011 13:07 Seeker wrote:
Anyone know when RO8 is starting?


After WC3. Schedule is on the first page.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51502 Posts
December 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#5886
hq ogn stream = http://www.tooniland.com/ongame/ognLive.tl?type=HD
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 04:09:28
December 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#5887
On December 10 2011 13:06 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 12:56 andaylin wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:52 Esk23 wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:51 gozima wrote:
MVP with another v, which is his worst matchup. Upset incoming?


It's his worst matchup but he's not bad at it, he's solid at TvP probably better than most TvP players.

no one really has good TvP anymore.

some T's are better at hitting the timing to take protosses down though.


let's not forget that the buffs protoss received in pvt were a cost decrease of upgrades that isn't even enough to produce one extra unit at the 10 minute mark and a 0.5 radius decrease of emp.

translated, protoss buffs were minor as fuck absolutely not gamechanging. the metagame shifted a fair bit, ok. but we're still one month and 2 minor changes away from the time when protoss' were in a terrible situation in code s and there still isn't one single pvt specialist in existence. hell best example would be mc or oz whose recent series were often shameful vs terrans.

just sayin cuz ppl are starting to act like tvp would be impossible now for terrans. which is laughable.

It kind of is if T doesn't start off with an advantage or kill P with a timing before the late game, but lets not start balance discussion in an LR .
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 10 2011 04:09 GMT
#5888
On December 10 2011 13:06 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 12:56 andaylin wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:52 Esk23 wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:51 gozima wrote:
MVP with another v, which is his worst matchup. Upset incoming?


It's his worst matchup but he's not bad at it, he's solid at TvP probably better than most TvP players.

no one really has good TvP anymore.

some T's are better at hitting the timing to take protosses down though.


let's not forget that the buffs protoss received in pvt were a cost decrease of upgrades that isn't even enough to produce one extra unit at the 10 minute mark and a 0.5 radius decrease of emp.

translated, protoss buffs were minor as fuck absolutely not gamechanging. the metagame shifted a fair bit, ok. but we're still one month and 2 minor changes away from the time when protoss' were in a terrible situation in code s and there still isn't one single pvt specialist in existence. hell best example would be mc or oz whose recent series were often shameful vs terrans.

just sayin cuz ppl are starting to act like tvp would be impossible now for terrans. which is laughable.

It's very possible for terrans to win, especially with tech builds that gives an econ-advantage. But you can get to a stage in the game, when the armies are 200/200 (and the protoss can build up an unlimited amount of warp-gates) where the potential of the P army is a lot higher. Bombers macro TvP-style has all but disappeared.
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
December 10 2011 04:09 GMT
#5889
On December 10 2011 13:02 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 13:00 ZeromuS wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:58 Seeker wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:56 andaylin wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:52 Esk23 wrote:
On December 10 2011 12:51 gozima wrote:
MVP with another v, which is his worst matchup. Upset incoming?


It's his worst matchup but he's not bad at it, he's solid at TvP probably better than most TvP players.

no one really has good TvP anymore.

some T's are better at hitting the timing to take protosses down though.


Jjakji has a good TvP : ]


And sometimes HuK throws away games to his opponents vs Kas. Sorry but im still a little sore he made such dumb decisions as throwing away a zealot and 2 stalkers in the early game. Then the engi bay block was just a nail in the coffin in my opinion. He was super behind at that point.


It's okay to be sore, a lot of good players have already been knocked out and I'm sure a lot us are sore.

But as long as you KNOW your player is good, then no one else can prove u wrong

yeah but its way more frustrating when you see your player beat himself. nothing against kas but i feel like huk is a better player and should beat him when they are both playing their best. its just that huk rarely seems to play his best these days.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 04:10:40
December 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5890
If anyone has any question about the game or the history of the players or Wc3 in general, ill be glad to answer.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5891
when is the next sc2 game?
PattyJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States153 Posts
December 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5892
was item drop RNG ever a big problem in the WC3 scene?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
December 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5893
On December 10 2011 13:07 illumn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 13:07 Seeker wrote:
Anyone know when RO8 is starting?


After WC3. Schedule is on the first page.


No..... schedule does not show SCII Ro8....... I already know about the first page.....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Rivon
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia29 Posts
December 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5894
Quarter finals start about 1.30ish.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
December 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5895
Are the finals for War3 Bo3 or Bo5?
Writer
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
December 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#5896
On December 10 2011 13:08 GTR wrote:
hq ogn stream = http://www.tooniland.com/ongame/ognLive.tl?type=HD


Also: http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrt
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
December 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#5897
Ro8 starts a 1pm KST
aka Moletrap
Issamu
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 04:13:07
December 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#5898
haha WC3 hasnt changed a bit in 5 years. good old tower rush
"You break my record, now I break you" - Chong Li
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#5899
Moon was special in WC3 but everyone else was kinda the same. :/
Rillanon.au
nkulu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States242 Posts
December 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#5900
On December 10 2011 13:10 LittLeD wrote:
If anyone has any question about the game or the history of the players or Wc3 in general, ill be glad to answer.



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