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Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1721
So what if MMA is "code S material", he can advance next month!
Be happy we got a Liquid player in S instead, that's just another reason (as if there weren't a ton already) to keep watching GSL. Plus it's good for the foreigner community to not have an all-korean code s :[
Grats Huk!
MH_Gunner
Profile Joined May 2011
200 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1722
Dam , i just noticed there will be more up/down matches in a few hours starring immvp , its 1:40 am here atm , i have to stay til 5:10 am to watch it
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1723
On May 11 2011 14:39 ComTrav wrote:
So I obviously need to watch these vods, but can someone give me a quick summary of how Huk beat MMA?


Defended poorly executed all-in from MMA on metalopolis, then 4gated his way to victory on terminus.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1724
On May 11 2011 14:37 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:37 KonohaFlash wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:36 skullhoof wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:35 Azurues wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:34 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
hehe so many stupid comments finds thier way here


when u are going to code S?


Lol, nice insult. Hope you won't get ban


Why would he get banned? O_o

He just insulted liquid Haypro...


You must have a hard time distinguishing things huh?
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1725
On May 11 2011 14:39 ComTrav wrote:
So I obviously need to watch these vods, but can someone give me a quick summary of how Huk beat MMA?

Game 1 MMA went for a 1/1/1 all in, HuK held it after doing a 1-gate expand and MMA was forced to GG after losing his entire army.

Game 2 HuK went for a 4-gate with two hidden gateways, MMA was teching and the three bunkers at his natural's entrance weren't able to stop HuK's push.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1726
On May 11 2011 14:35 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:34 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
hehe so many stupid comments finds thier way here


lol stupid comments find their way here and you can't find your way into Code A?

User was temp banned for this post.


Lol.
God DAJNFBGHSfIDSHUKLFHSGUIO! -Jinro
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1727
On May 11 2011 14:38 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:36 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:31 Scribble wrote:
This isn't a "he doesn't deserve code S," post, because he won his right back into code S and that's that. My point is that when he finally gets a win, he displays no humility. I don't think he's going to improve enough to advance through code S until his ego deflates a bit.

When it does deflate though, I'm positive he will be a monster. He's progressed in huge bursts since beta, stagnating inbetween each major improvement. Letting some of his ego go is going to be his next big hurdle.


Is ego such a terrible thing to have for a Starcraft 2 player?

Look what it did for MC.

It wasn't even an ego inflating ceremony. It was a celebration that he had a birthday and he stays in Code S. He wasn't putting his opponent down, it was about being really happy for winning.


I think that's an important distinction. A ceremony where you're in your opponent's face taunting or gloating is disrespectful (whether you think that's bad or not is up to you). Putting on a birthday hat in your booth is just goofing off for the fans and celebrating a victory.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#1728
On May 11 2011 14:40 proxY_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:36 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:31 Scribble wrote:
This isn't a "he doesn't deserve code S," post, because he won his right back into code S and that's that. My point is that when he finally gets a win, he displays no humility. I don't think he's going to improve enough to advance through code S until his ego deflates a bit.

When it does deflate though, I'm positive he will be a monster. He's progressed in huge bursts since beta, stagnating inbetween each major improvement. Letting some of his ego go is going to be his next big hurdle.


Is ego such a terrible thing to have for a Starcraft 2 player?

Look what it did for MC.


MC got arrogant and went to the up and down matches against a vastly inferior player that build order exploited his early nexus builds. I'm not going to flame Huk or anything but his ceremony was over the top and a bit disrespectful. Then again the most interesting players are the ones that have an "edge" to them like idrA so I don't really know what to make of Huk.


How was it disrespectful?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
mitthrawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany443 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 05:41:46
May 11 2011 05:41 GMT
#1729
Thank you HUK for proving all the haters wrong. And -oh boy- do they look silly now.
/o\
Highlight
Profile Joined April 2011
United States75 Posts
May 11 2011 05:41 GMT
#1730
dear pros, the haters might be loud, but I can assure you that you have more fans. do not read the LR thread for your own good! waste of time.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 11 2011 05:41 GMT
#1731
It's HIS BIRTHDAY. He 2-0'd MMA to get back into Code S. And people are saying the celebration shows that HuK has an ego problem?

Seriously?

HuK thinks he's one of the best players in the world, and is constantly out to prove it. There's nothing wrong with that, especially because he never talks down other players, and by all accounts, practices a tremendous amount in order to achieve his personal goals.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 11 2011 05:41 GMT
#1732
On May 11 2011 14:40 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:40 proxY_ wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:36 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:31 Scribble wrote:
This isn't a "he doesn't deserve code S," post, because he won his right back into code S and that's that. My point is that when he finally gets a win, he displays no humility. I don't think he's going to improve enough to advance through code S until his ego deflates a bit.

When it does deflate though, I'm positive he will be a monster. He's progressed in huge bursts since beta, stagnating inbetween each major improvement. Letting some of his ego go is going to be his next big hurdle.


Is ego such a terrible thing to have for a Starcraft 2 player?

Look what it did for MC.


MC got arrogant and went to the up and down matches against a vastly inferior player that build order exploited his early nexus builds. I'm not going to flame Huk or anything but his ceremony was over the top and a bit disrespectful. Then again the most interesting players are the ones that have an "edge" to them like idrA so I don't really know what to make of Huk.


How was it disrespectful?

Progamers aren't allowed to display emotion, obviously.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
May 11 2011 05:41 GMT
#1733
I really like violet's build so far. I wanna see how he follows it up!~
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
hagrin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1734
violet about to overrun Kyrix with 24 zerglings.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1735
On May 11 2011 14:39 Namu wrote:
Not sure why people hate on HuK so much.
I don't think having a big ego is detrimental at all to the scene, of course assuming it doesn't hurt anyone else. Characters are good for the scene, especially strong characters because it livens up the scene..

Indeed.

MC used to have HUGE problems with nerves in televised matches. His cockiness is probably a method of mentally shielding himself from these nerves.

I assume that Huk's joviality is his way of dealing with his nerves.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1736
On May 11 2011 14:40 ShcShc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:35 how2TL wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:34 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
hehe so many stupid comments finds thier way here


lol stupid comments find their way here and you can't find your way into Code A?

User was temp banned for this post.


Lol.


To be honest, his comment is very witty.
Polt was right about luck
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1737
oh wow really bad mistake from kyrix, letting his queens get surrounded
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
dryudryu
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)18 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1738
Huck you!
rawrjaaaaay
Profile Joined March 2011
United States426 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1739
So after this group, there are 2 more groups?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
May 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#1740
On May 11 2011 14:35 I)etox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:31 ELA wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:28 Tachion wrote:
MMA played ridiculous...when you face someone worse than you you don't play risky -_- Maybe he really was on tilt. His all-in was really poorly timed too. Something was going on.


His timing in g1 was like 15-20 seconds off.. It was bad, but not gamebreaking, and it could very well have worked.

In game 2, what do you think exactly that MMA could have done different from the information he had available? HuK was better today, no doubt in my mind



15-20 seconds is huge in timings/all-ins, especially when you consider that time allowed HuK to get an additional round of warp-ins. In game 2, MMA went for a very, very greedy build even though he should have known that HuK would cheese/be aggressive since he was a game up.

Yes, HuK performed better today than MMA (obv since he won), but MMA is a better player overall. Perhaps HuK will improve now that his stay in Code S hasn't been cut short, but today MMA was just slumping.


Problem for MMA was, that HuK pushed out, meeting MMA close to the tower - MMA didn't want to fight, but as soon as those forcefields landed behind his tanks, he was screwed.. If that fight had happened at HuK's base and not close to the center, the timing would have been fine..

He should have known that HuK would cheese since he was a game ahead? What kind of logic is that? That is not at all certain..

As a terran player if I scout a protoss and see double gas already at 16, im not really expecting a 4gate.. Maybe that's just me..
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