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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 11 2011 06:35 GMT
#2161
On May 11 2011 15:11 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 15:04 partisan wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:03 AimForTheBushes wrote:
lol, can queens take more hits from banelings than bunkers???



Queens cost 150 more minerals.

This is, of course, the fundamental difference between the two units.


Don't know why but this made me laugh. Love me some dry humour.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 11 2011 06:35 GMT
#2162
How exactly does a SC coach work though? The players already know how to practice themselves....

Does he just discuss strats and bitch at them if they slack off or something? Organize practice sessions between team members?
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JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
May 11 2011 06:37 GMT
#2163
On May 11 2011 15:24 Roffu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 15:23 Wein wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:21 Roffu wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:18 zestzorb wrote:
Happier than Kyrix is the Kratoss


Can anyone explain to me whats with MC and the wind? aren't they in the same team? I don't get it.


TheWind is coach of oGs team.


Yeah I know he is the coach, but isn't it good for a coach to still play competitive and not outdate himself ?


I doubt MC would joke like that unless TheWind has stated to his team members that he doesn't want to be super competitive anymore.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 11 2011 06:38 GMT
#2164
On May 11 2011 15:23 Havefa1th wrote:
There are other units instead of banelings. Kyrix vs. TheWind:

+ Show Spoiler +
First match: Let's feel each other out, get late speed and then at 22 food, build banelings.

Second match: TheWind all-in's, loljk turn those drones around, build banelings.

Third match: HATCH FIRST! Maybe gonna see roach infestor? Both players go macro mode, interesting with a few Zergling pokes, and then build banelings.


My ZvZ's are never that stupid. Fast roaches to beat banelings are much more stable and forgiving, I don't know why those players (neither of which had very good control) didn't go roaches :/


What do you mean fast roaches? Go straight to roach is bad on most maps.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
May 11 2011 06:38 GMT
#2165
Coaches look at you playing, help you organize and refine builds. They remind the players of the tiny little stuff like "oh you should place the buildings here" or "you should do a timing attack at this time".
They also give confidence and moral support to the players and keep them on their toes
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
May 11 2011 06:38 GMT
#2166
On May 11 2011 15:35 Mailing wrote:
How exactly does a SC coach work though? The players already know how to practice themselves....

Does he just discuss strats and bitch at them if they slack off or something? Organize practice sessions between team members?



Bit like a football coach I'd assume...study the opponents, discuss/recommend strategies and so on...
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
May 11 2011 06:39 GMT
#2167
Wow Huk made it into code S again.
Did not expect this at all considering his opponents.
#1 Terran hater
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
May 11 2011 06:41 GMT
#2168
I seriously thought MMA and MarineKing would get Code S, but I'm very happy to see Huk stayed in Code S instead! =)
I guess the one advantage he had was he knew he would play against T regardless of who won, but it's still an impressive feat to come out of that up/down group.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 11 2011 06:43 GMT
#2169
Game 2 of HuK vs MMA was the most perfectly executed 4 gate I've seen in the history of SC2.

Gratz to HuK on staying in Code S.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 11 2011 06:45 GMT
#2170
I cant believe I missed HuK play and ofcourse this time he wins...
KCCO!
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 06:48:08
May 11 2011 06:47 GMT
#2171
On May 11 2011 15:37 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 15:24 Roffu wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:23 Wein wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:21 Roffu wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:18 zestzorb wrote:
Happier than Kyrix is the Kratoss


Can anyone explain to me whats with MC and the wind? aren't they in the same team? I don't get it.


TheWind is coach of oGs team.


Yeah I know he is the coach, but isn't it good for a coach to still play competitive and not outdate himself ?


I doubt MC would joke like that unless TheWind has stated to his team members that he doesn't want to be super competitive anymore.


MC said that when he picked TheWind to be in his GSL May group. And I think I've read somewhere that TheWind said he'd retire if he fell out of code S.
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
May 11 2011 06:48 GMT
#2172
On May 11 2011 15:35 Darksoldierr wrote:
Anyone could write down what happend in the huk games in short?



+ Show Spoiler +
Game1:

Close air on metalopolis

MMA did a 1base marine/tank/banshee all in, huk 1gate expo into 4gates... huk held the push with good micro and sniping tanks, MMA ran out of steam and GG'd



Game2:

Cross positions terminus

MMA 1rax expands while huk proxies 2 gateways and goes for a 2gas 4gate.. arives at MMA's base when he has 8 marines in 2 bunkers.. FF prevents repair and huk rolls through MMA
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 11 2011 06:49 GMT
#2173
On May 11 2011 14:01 MrKn4rz wrote:
If Huk beats MMA I will eat Incontrol.

lol
Banelings are too cute to blow up
DeathPengu
Profile Joined January 2011
Taiwan137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 06:50:54
May 11 2011 06:50 GMT
#2174
On May 11 2011 15:35 Mailing wrote:
How exactly does a SC coach work though? The players already know how to practice themselves....

Does he just discuss strats and bitch at them if they slack off or something? Organize practice sessions between team members?


I don't know much either. Maybe this video can do a little help:

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/gomcam/

"Behind the booth~ oGsTheWind"
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 11 2011 06:52 GMT
#2175
On May 11 2011 15:48 Sanchonator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 15:35 Darksoldierr wrote:
Anyone could write down what happend in the huk games in short?



+ Show Spoiler +
Game1:

Close air on metalopolis

MMA did a 1base marine/tank/banshee all in, huk 1gate expo into 4gates... huk held the push with good micro and sniping tanks, MMA ran out of steam and GG'd



Game2:

Cross positions terminus

MMA 1rax expands while huk proxies 2 gateways and goes for a 2gas 4gate.. arives at MMA's base when he has 8 marines in 2 bunkers.. FF prevents repair and huk rolls through MMA


Thanks, gg
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 11 2011 06:52 GMT
#2176
Those behind the booth things are 2 for 3 on having it's players get knocked out right after they air. Losira was close, but he made it 1 extra match.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 11 2011 06:54 GMT
#2177
noooooo theWind......
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 11 2011 07:15 GMT
#2178
... I really want to see these baneling wars now. Goddammit.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
May 11 2011 07:24 GMT
#2179
On May 11 2011 15:28 usethis2 wrote:
Kyrix got a huge break. His ZvZ is usually very solid and his ling/bling micro is fantastic. But it was visible and obvious that he was tilting hard after the first loss (game 1 v Violet) and completely lost tempo.

I hope (wish) Kyrix takes his games more seriously. I like his play alot (when he's doing well) but I get the impression that he doesn't have too big of an ambition. It's like he simply plays every matches with "whatever" mindset. Too bad because I think he's got a huge potential.

Anyhow, today's ZvZs were worse than the average PvP except maybe Violet's nice deception strat in game 1. Fast and furious, sure, but verrrrrrrry messy and full of mistakes from the players.


I agree it was like night and day compared to when he beat Julyzerg and some other Zs in the past. Kyrix really seemed off today. He obviously isn`t the greatest, but he usually doesn`t make that many micro mistakes.
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
May 11 2011 07:34 GMT
#2180
On May 11 2011 15:35 Darksoldierr wrote:
Anyone could write down what happend in the huk games in short?



I only read this thread but in short:


Game 1

Huk 1 gate FE couple more gates
MMA 1 base timing attack rines, shees, tanks

huk holds the timing attack expand kicks in... wins

game 2

huk goes 4 gate with 2 proxy gates
mma goes 1 rax FE and techs


huks 4 gate is super effective
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