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MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1021
On May 05 2011 12:50 HolyArrow wrote:
Oh, and to people who will inevitably say stuff like "lag doesn't make someone bank 1000 minerals or have 1 pylon powering everything", lag affects your mentality and concentration as well.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:50 Pengtoss wrote:
wow.....just so bad ;___;

does lag have that big of an impact? :<


Yep. Watch yesterday's SotG, IdrA pretty much says that he refused to even play in international tournaments while he was in Korea due to lag (he even says that lag at the oGs house affects play, even if it's better than the other houses). Tyler says that since the earthquake, the lag has really been pretty bad.


I commend you on your trolling sir. Moon is doing pretty damn good, Artosis is just getting out played.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1022
This must be the series incontrol was referring to sotg... I should have seen it coming, being the last match of the day.

I must be a masochist for watching this still...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1023
artosis is trollin
we hatin
Nicodemusher
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1024
I feel like Artosis needs to go back to Zerg. Regardless of what he thinks about imba, he's showing up as a pretty low-level toss.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1025
On May 05 2011 12:50 HolyArrow wrote:
Oh, and to people who will inevitably say stuff like "lag doesn't make someone bank 1000 minerals or have 1 pylon powering everything", lag affects your mentality and concentration as well.


That might be fair. But I think Artosis has been practicing on the North American server? Can someone verify? You can't explain all of that by lag...it just isn't realistic. I'm not saying Artosis is Silver League or something like that, he just isn't a full time pro-gamer and it shows in these situations.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1026
On May 05 2011 12:51 jiabung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:48 Baby_Seal wrote:
Don't judge too heavily off of just a single game. Everyone has times where things just go to shit.

Every single one of his NASL games he has lost pretty one-sidedly.
Also his stream shows he is struggling at mid masters. Everyone loves Artosis but he's really just not a competitive player right now.

His Kiwikaki games weren't that one sided i didn't think.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1027
On May 05 2011 12:49 Shen_ wrote:
I find it very distasteful taking jabs at Artosis without mentioning the lag. Most people watching this don't know about the lag and Incontrol is basically using the opportunity to destroy his reputation.


I play from Australia, we have no server of our own, 150ms of lag is considered a good day usually chill on about 250ms on NA - lag doesn't make anybody play that badly, ever...
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1028
LOL to all those people that were super pumped about artosis being in the NASL and defending their decision.
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1029
On May 05 2011 12:49 Shen_ wrote:
I find it very distasteful taking jabs at Artosis without mentioning the lag. Most people watching this don't know about the lag and Incontrol is basically using the opportunity to destroy his reputation.

Sorry mate, but the lag doesn't make you lose a zealot and sentry that early in the game
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#1030
On May 05 2011 12:51 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
"lag doesn't make someone bank 1000 minerals or have 1 pylon powering everything", lag affects your mentality and concentration as well.


Enough for a PRO PLAYER to power 6 building with 1 pylon?

Right...


Yes. It distracts you and cuts your concentration, making you make stupid mistakes. If you don't understand that then I really don't know what else to say.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1031
i don't understand he did really really good vs kiwi t.t and he did well vs sheth and moon as well.. its ok i still believe =D
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omegan
Profile Joined April 2011
76 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1032
On May 05 2011 12:48 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:47 HolyArrow wrote:
Probably is lag. IdrA and Tyler made it clear that you don't take any performances/results seriously for players playing from Korea. The lag is just too big a factor, and I really doubt Artosis plays that sloppily.

Yeah i was really happy to hear them stress that point so strong on SotG (hence my cheering for Rainbow's bitbybit style).






Yeah I've tasted this lag all the time when playing KR-NA
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1033
I'd forgotten Artosis has been trying out a new hotkey setup on his stream. That could explain a lot as far as what went wrong in this game.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1034
On May 05 2011 12:47 HolyArrow wrote:
Probably is lag. IdrA and Tyler made it clear that you don't take any performances/results seriously for players playing from Korea. The lag is just too big a factor, and I really doubt Artosis plays that sloppily.


The thing is, there are things that lag does not affect, like using chrono boosts, making pylons at the right times, and making production buildings / units.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1035
On May 05 2011 12:51 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
"lag doesn't make someone bank 1000 minerals or have 1 pylon powering everything", lag affects your mentality and concentration as well.


Enough for a PRO PLAYER to power 6 building with 1 pylon?

Right...


Forgetting the other pylon that was also powering the majority of those structures that was sniped early on?
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1036
On May 05 2011 12:52 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:51 jiabung wrote:
On May 05 2011 12:48 Baby_Seal wrote:
Don't judge too heavily off of just a single game. Everyone has times where things just go to shit.

Every single one of his NASL games he has lost pretty one-sidedly.
Also his stream shows he is struggling at mid masters. Everyone loves Artosis but he's really just not a competitive player right now.

His Kiwikaki games weren't that one sided i didn't think.


Blame the state of PvP for that. It was 4 gate vs 4 gate most of those games.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1037
was over after the first push, he would have been fine by why chrono two obs. also letting sentry get sniped by moving down no ramp for no reason.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1038
Cmon guys I want gifs, I want jpegs. I BELIEVE IN ARTOSIS! Lets support our favorite vegetarian, gsl caster!
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1039
Lol Artosis proving you may need more than 1 pylon :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 03:55:31
May 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#1040
On May 05 2011 12:50 HolyArrow wrote:
Oh, and to people who will inevitably say stuff like "lag doesn't make someone bank 1000 minerals or have 1 pylon powering everything", lag affects your mentality and concentration as well.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:50 Pengtoss wrote:
wow.....just so bad ;___;

does lag have that big of an impact? :<


Yep. Watch yesterday's SotG, IdrA pretty much says that he refused to even play in international tournaments while he was in Korea due to lag (he even says that lag at the oGs house affects play, even if it's better than the other houses). Tyler says that since the earthquake, the lag has really been pretty bad.

No... Lag doesn't make your brain forget warpgate cycles and accumulate 900 minerals. I'm sorry. I would love for Artosis to do well, but you can't just say lag was the biggest issue here. It wasn't even close.

The level idrA plays at its essential to not have lag in close game, it's the tipping and that's why he says game just don't count under KR/US lag. This game would've ended nearly the exact same way if there was no lag.
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