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On April 23 2011 16:23 Lennon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 16:20 FairForever wrote:On April 23 2011 16:16 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:On April 23 2011 16:09 FrostShadow wrote:On April 23 2011 16:07 Fyzar wrote:On April 23 2011 16:02 grieverEU wrote:
i hate it when tasteless always says lyn is top4 wc3 of all time lol He is? What's your top4 then ^^? 1. Grubby 2. Moon 3. Sky It gets hazy after that, you could argue for 000, madfrog, creo, remind, lyn, and a lot of other great players. No you can't, you either put fly100%, Infi, or Lyn. And achievement wise and impact on the metagame that was so stagnant for a couple of years, Lyn takes it. He popularized the t3 no expand vs undead and the Sh fast level 3 vs NE going mass talons. Not to mention his amazing BM control. Arguing for any of the first three you mentioned is not knowing the scene and the impact of the respective players. TH had two stellar but short-lived moments, when he first came out, and second when he won ESWC China 2008 (Sure, he's been dominant since 2010, when all other pros went to SC2 or inactive...), but Lyn has won so much more and had a far greater influence in the way the game is played nowadays. Anyway, Lyn was overaggressive  Definitely do not agree with you. I'll go 1. Moon 2. Grubby 3. Sky Essentially agree with original post, Lyn is great but not on the level of the above three. I'll go with Creo, Fov or Lyn afterwards. I still don't think Lyn is top 4... defintiely Top 10 though. Happy to see Lyn Grubby and Moon really starting to make an impact in SC2, Grubby and Moon are both playing very well in NASL so far and Lyn hopefully can make a strong impression too  What about ReMinD? Highest level since the beginning of TFT means nothing?
I think Moon and Grubby have been revolutionary for their respective races, and I think that counts a lot when evaluating this kind of stuff. Remind is a very skilled player, but falls short on that category. Hell, everybody else falls short on that category when compared to those two.
My ranking is
1. Moon
2. Grubby (interchangeble)
then there is the rest
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On April 23 2011 16:27 dusthoof wrote:
Anyway I am still curious why Jinro choose Clide, he should have chosen check.
Because Jinro would've taken Clide out if he'd been able to play him. TvT is his best matchup.
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On April 23 2011 16:27 ooni wrote:
WAIT... What if one player has Eunjung and the other has Jiyeon?
Who wins? Biggest paradox in GSL history.
Ohshi-
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On April 23 2011 16:28 NasD wrote:
Hows this upcoming ZvZ fair anyone know? I'm unfamiliar with either in this matchup
Fruitdealer is supposed to be pretty good. Check....probably not 
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On April 23 2011 16:28 NasD wrote:
Hows this upcoming ZvZ fair anyone know? I'm unfamiliar with either in this matchup
Check is pretty bad at it, and FruitDealer is amazing, he hatched first once vs a 6 pool on Jungle Basin and won easily.
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Just read this, gomtv is really stepping it up even more, no one can touch gsl in terms of tournament quality, why cant we have tournaments like this in the west =(
Oh well players are better in korea anyways so id probably still watch the GSL more, im so happy with GSL (i always have been) but since january they have just gotten so much better each season there is a huge improvement. Ill keep paying forever and ever if they keep it up!
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On April 23 2011 16:27 dusthoof wrote:
Anyway I am still curious why Jinro choose Clide, he should have chosen check.
Jinro failed the pick big time. Was it Idra who said Clide sucks? I don't know where else he could get that idea
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On April 23 2011 16:25 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 16:23 Lennon wrote:On April 23 2011 16:20 FairForever wrote:On April 23 2011 16:16 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:On April 23 2011 16:09 FrostShadow wrote:On April 23 2011 16:07 Fyzar wrote:On April 23 2011 16:02 grieverEU wrote:
i hate it when tasteless always says lyn is top4 wc3 of all time lol He is? What's your top4 then ^^? 1. Grubby 2. Moon 3. Sky It gets hazy after that, you could argue for 000, madfrog, creo, remind, lyn, and a lot of other great players. No you can't, you either put fly100%, Infi, or Lyn. And achievement wise and impact on the metagame that was so stagnant for a couple of years, Lyn takes it. He popularized the t3 no expand vs undead and the Sh fast level 3 vs NE going mass talons. Not to mention his amazing BM control. Arguing for any of the first three you mentioned is not knowing the scene and the impact of the respective players. TH had two stellar but short-lived moments, when he first came out, and second when he won ESWC China 2008 (Sure, he's been dominant since 2010, when all other pros went to SC2 or inactive...), but Lyn has won so much more and had a far greater influence in the way the game is played nowadays. Anyway, Lyn was overaggressive Definitely do not agree with you. I'll go 1. Moon 2. Grubby 3. Sky Essentially agree with original post, Lyn is great but not on the level of the above three. I'll go with Creo, Fov or Lyn afterwards. I still don't think Lyn is top 4... defintiely Top 10 though. Happy to see Lyn Grubby and Moon really starting to make an impact in SC2, Grubby and Moon are both playing very well in NASL so far and Lyn hopefully can make a strong impression too What about ReMinD? Highest level since the beginning of TFT means nothing? I don't know, he is definitely very good, I always felt he was more of an online player though, correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't generally have strong LAN results (which were a lot bigger in WC3 then they are in SC2).
I'm not going to list all his offline achievements but he won WCG 2010 and Blizzcon and he's currently dominating the remaining online tournaments.
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On April 23 2011 16:28 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 16:23 Falcor wrote:On April 23 2011 16:22 Aristodemus wrote:On April 23 2011 16:21 Falcor wrote:On April 23 2011 16:20 mordk wrote:
Mutaling is so difficult for me to counter as protoss, especially considering KA nerf, whenever I play zerg and they go roach, I sigh with relief sentries no, they slow as shit and immortals, dts, collosus arent? You play protoss? dude zerg dont straight up fight with muta, they hit and run. Blink stalker and tech to storm is best way. The speed of other units is irrelevant, he was asking how to deal with muta.
i was saying that no matter what zerg will hit and run with any unit(except hydra) especially now with how the mu works now. And every other coutner unit prot uses is slow as fuck...doesnt mean you dont use them.
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i was waiting this match a long time
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Sleeping after this, this group not very exciting
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On April 23 2011 16:11 Skyze wrote:
tasteless lost lots of respect from me there. What ridiculous comments. Outside of korea, look whos winning the most. Naniwa, Kiwikaki, Kas, etc.
Tasteless is in Korea
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On April 23 2011 16:25 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 16:23 Lennon wrote:On April 23 2011 16:20 FairForever wrote:On April 23 2011 16:16 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:On April 23 2011 16:09 FrostShadow wrote:On April 23 2011 16:07 Fyzar wrote:On April 23 2011 16:02 grieverEU wrote:
i hate it when tasteless always says lyn is top4 wc3 of all time lol He is? What's your top4 then ^^? 1. Grubby 2. Moon 3. Sky It gets hazy after that, you could argue for 000, madfrog, creo, remind, lyn, and a lot of other great players. No you can't, you either put fly100%, Infi, or Lyn. And achievement wise and impact on the metagame that was so stagnant for a couple of years, Lyn takes it. He popularized the t3 no expand vs undead and the Sh fast level 3 vs NE going mass talons. Not to mention his amazing BM control. Arguing for any of the first three you mentioned is not knowing the scene and the impact of the respective players. TH had two stellar but short-lived moments, when he first came out, and second when he won ESWC China 2008 (Sure, he's been dominant since 2010, when all other pros went to SC2 or inactive...), but Lyn has won so much more and had a far greater influence in the way the game is played nowadays. Anyway, Lyn was overaggressive Definitely do not agree with you. I'll go 1. Moon 2. Grubby 3. Sky Essentially agree with original post, Lyn is great but not on the level of the above three. I'll go with Creo, Fov or Lyn afterwards. I still don't think Lyn is top 4... defintiely Top 10 though. Happy to see Lyn Grubby and Moon really starting to make an impact in SC2, Grubby and Moon are both playing very well in NASL so far and Lyn hopefully can make a strong impression too What about ReMinD? Highest level since the beginning of TFT means nothing? I don't know, he is definitely very good, I always felt he was more of an online player though, correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't generally have strong LAN results (which were a lot bigger in WC3 then they are in SC2).
Long time I played WC3 but wasn't ShowTime also top results/game-influence/legendary status wise? If I remember correctly he was 1st, 2nd and 3rd place on KR Ladder in same time and won OGN, etc? Or I am terribly mistaken? No one mentioned him.
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On April 23 2011 16:30 meep wrote:
Sleeping after this, this group not very exciting
nth compare to the previous group
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Goddamn, FruitDealer looks soooooo badass....
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On April 23 2011 16:27 ooni wrote:
WAIT... What if one player has Eunjung and the other has Jiyeon?
Who wins? Biggest paradox in GSL history.
Already happened. Supernova vs Polt. Jiyeon is up 1-0.
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So does fruitdealer ever sleep? He always looks dead tired
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When the tits did this turn into a WC3 thread
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On April 23 2011 16:28 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 16:27 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:On April 23 2011 16:20 FairForever wrote:On April 23 2011 16:16 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:On April 23 2011 16:09 FrostShadow wrote:On April 23 2011 16:07 Fyzar wrote:On April 23 2011 16:02 grieverEU wrote:
i hate it when tasteless always says lyn is top4 wc3 of all time lol He is? What's your top4 then ^^? 1. Grubby 2. Moon 3. Sky It gets hazy after that, you could argue for 000, madfrog, creo, remind, lyn, and a lot of other great players. No you can't, you either put fly100%, Infi, or Lyn. And achievement wise and impact on the metagame that was so stagnant for a couple of years, Lyn takes it. He popularized the t3 no expand vs undead and the Sh fast level 3 vs NE going mass talons. Not to mention his amazing BM control. Arguing for any of the first three you mentioned is not knowing the scene and the impact of the respective players. TH had two stellar but short-lived moments, when he first came out, and second when he won ESWC China 2008 (Sure, he's been dominant since 2010, when all other pros went to SC2 or inactive...), but Lyn has won so much more and had a far greater influence in the way the game is played nowadays. Anyway, Lyn was overaggressive Definitely do not agree with you. I'll go 1. Moon 2. Grubby 3. Sky Essentially agree with original post, Lyn is great but not on the level of the above three. I'll go with Creo, Fov or Lyn afterwards. I still don't think Lyn is top 4... defintiely Top 10 though. Happy to see Lyn Grubby and Moon really starting to make an impact in SC2, Grubby and Moon are both playing very well in NASL so far and Lyn hopefully can make a strong impression too Creo won a WCG, what did FoV win? Lyn won Blizzcon 2k9, EMS 2010, ESWC 2010 and I think a couple more tournaments I can't remember at the moment :S Only two players I can find an argument valid for the 4th spot, those being Infi and Fly100% Check -_- I guess it depends how you look at it, for me the team competitions (eg WC3L) were so much bigger in WC3 that it actually matters - FoV and Creo probably get a bump up from me just for helping 4K maintain dominance for so long. But fair point.
Yeah, I was thinking you were thinking of the good ole' 4K vs MYM vs SK days
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Wow those are some awkward intros
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