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Mattjk
Canada39 Posts
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
Edit: Tyvm people, I was under the impression that NASL was live. | ||
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:16 Irrational_Animal wrote: Can someone summarize the flames/whines?^^ Well... Demuslim whined about zerg being imba and Nerchio whined about banshees being basically flying DT's. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2006 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:16 Irrational_Animal wrote: Can someone summarize the flames/whines?^^ + Show Spoiler + First game Demu got ahead only to lose in late game, said that he couldnt beat that army (BL, infestor, ling) that he fungal any small unit, neural any large unit. Game two he just went two starport banshee with cloak and won, Nerchio complained about that being "broken". Third game Demu tried same tactic but Nerchio got alot of queens and Demu said "there it isnt so hard to defend". | ||
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Arc1
Poland849 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:16 Irrational_Animal wrote: Can someone summarize the flames/whines?^^ -In first game Demulsim complained that there is no way for terran to beat "zerg deatball"(infestors, corruptors, brood lords, lings, roaches) and that zergs are op. -In second game he was still complaining about this, and said something like "i glad, even you dont know how to stop that", and Demuslim went for 2 starport cloak banshee. -At end Nerchio was mad that zergs cant stop mass flying cloacked units early. -In third Demuslim went with same build, and Nerchio defended this, and Demuslim said" see, it's not that hard". fin | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:19 Amestir wrote: So Grubby can't play Nerchio because he has to play NASL. How can that be? NASL is just broadcasting the USA games atm? NASL games are played about 2 days before broadcast, 3 days before EU broadcast. | ||
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Mattjk
Canada39 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:19 Amestir wrote: So Grubby can't play Nerchio because he has to play NASL. How can that be? NASL is just broadcasting the USA games atm? NASL is recorded ahead of time, I believe 2days ahead. | ||
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DeMusliM
United Kingdom401 Posts
So the 2nd game i allinned him with banshees, and he whined about them 2 shotting workers, sorry but that's nothing to complain about when fungals 2 shot my whole army. 3rd game i tried the same allin, he defended because he made more queens, and i said "see, wasn't that hard to defend, gg" and left. - Wasn't really whining from my point, was simply trying to understand how on earth to beat that army, and how him making a mistake cost him the 2nd game, rather than banshees being ridiculous. | ||
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jeanphil
France74 Posts
But I mean what did he expect???? Did he realy think he could come back from a 2 month absence and get good again in 1 week?? | ||
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Aristodemus
England2006 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:27 jeanphil wrote: Demuslim rage: I could lean your race (zerg) in 1 day and win But I mean what did he expect???? Did he realy think he could come back from a 2 month absence and get good again in 1 week?? Dont write stuff that isnt true | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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jeanphil
France74 Posts
what do you mean?? | ||
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:25 DeMusliM wrote: Well, i asked him what on earth does he lose vs late game - (for example in the metalopolis situation) - and he said he doesn't know (pretty big indicator that, he doesn't) - That was a late game TvZ situation, both had good grades - late game armies, i had my half of the map, he had 40% of his (i delayed his expos sickeningly long) but i lost. So the 2nd game i allinned him with banshees, and he whined about them 2 shotting workers, sorry but that's nothing to complain about when fungals 2 shot my whole army. 3rd game i tried the same allin, he defended because he made more queens, and i said "see, wasn't that hard to defend, gg" and left. - Wasn't really whining from my point, was simply trying to understand how on earth to beat that army, and how him making a mistake cost him the 2nd game, rather than banshees being ridiculous. Maybe it's just that he is better than You now? About late game TvZ, try dropping blue flame hellions directly into mineral line. They are a lot more cost effective than M&M&M. I think mixing up some ghosts into your army composition would be nice too. Ghosts can cloak and catching infestors with EMP before the battle could be beneficial. | ||
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cHicKeLoR
Germany559 Posts
Demu already got 2nd place in some invite cup. | ||
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DeMusliM
United Kingdom401 Posts
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DeMusliM
United Kingdom401 Posts
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
Maybe Demuslim should write a lovely letter to Mr. Kim ;-) | ||
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Aristodemus
England2006 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:38 Irrational_Animal wrote: Well at least one has to admit that every Terran hs huge problems vs lategame Zerg right now. Even someone like Kas struggles against weaker opponents. I just tend to agree that Infestors plus the abilty to techswitch from Broodlords to Ultras (like Lowely does) are insanely hard to handle. Indeed. Late game is zerg favored now against terran. Terran has to do early damage. Still I dont get why terrans get ghosts so late, often not at all against infestors. Against protoss terran sees HT, terran makes ghost. And EMP on infestor is even more effective as on HT, as infestor cant do anything without energy. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain to me why terrans dont automatically make ghosts vs mass infestor. | ||
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:39 Aristodemus wrote: Your first line was bullshit Jeanphil, thats what i mean. As for the TvZ stuff, Demu isnt the only guy having trouble right now with it. Perhaps these top terrans could get some lessons from 5ukkub >.< They most certainly could!  But yeah, the OP race is constantly switching. Just wait a few weeks and you'll see people will again start crying about terrans ^^ | ||
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