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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
April 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#12081
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.


User was temp banned for this post.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
MahanS
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany87 Posts
April 13 2011 15:48 GMT
#12082
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.


bad simile ... xP
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
April 13 2011 15:50 GMT
#12083
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.

idra v mc game 1. pure macro game with even ammount of tech switches from both races, you are just too blinded by your hate. btw only reason u gonna get banned is because u said u will so good luck with thath
Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
April 13 2011 15:51 GMT
#12084
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.

Well he is playing for his fans, and his fans wants to see him win. Hes gonna do whatever he can to not dissapoint them.
"On a scale from 1 to Idra, how mad are you right now?" -ROOTDestiny
Xercen
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom375 Posts
April 13 2011 15:53 GMT
#12085
To be honest why do we have 4 player maps in 1v1 that have cross spawn positions?

i'm a big fan of white ra and mc. I wanted white ra to win but mc played awesome. You have to do everything you can to win and cheesing is a part of sc2.

It's called mind games but i do not like 4 player maps have cross spawn positions that's just silly
Aeyce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States45 Posts
April 13 2011 15:58 GMT
#12086
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.


Just like there are consequences for MC's cheese in the last game, there are consequences to Hitler's actions in the past. If the cheese fails, MC is way behind, but it didn't, therefore he would be able to achieve his goal of winning. Hitler's actions, however, caused his goal of having "his countrymen to live in wealth," caused the Allies to view him as an enemy, and he eventually lost WWII, and failed his goal.

If the Allies had been able to assassinate Hitler in 1938, would they take it? Yes, they would. Is this a cheap or unfair alternative to a second World War? Arguably, yes, it is. But had Hitler been assassinated, six million lives would be spared, not including the casualties of war.

By the way, you'll probably get banned for martyring, not because of your argument.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:09:23
April 13 2011 16:01 GMT
#12087
On April 14 2011 00:53 Xercen wrote:
To be honest why do we have 4 player maps in 1v1 that have cross spawn positions?

i'm a big fan of white ra and mc. I wanted white ra to win but mc played awesome. You have to do everything you can to win and cheesing is a part of sc2.

It's called mind games but i do not like 4 player maps have cross spawn positions that's just silly


4 Player map with Cross Spawns simply has longer a distance between the bases, decreasing the power of cheese/rushes... Would you rather have a possibility of getting close by ground spawn on Metalopolis in a Zerg vs Terran match? Such things are just too uneven and don't belong in a tournament.
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
oiceth
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia35 Posts
April 13 2011 16:03 GMT
#12088
On April 14 2011 00:31 Klaent wrote:
7 interviews from the event:
http://rakakaworld.com/?newsID=230



hot interviews are hot hot hot

<3 Sweden
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:11:35
April 13 2011 16:09 GMT
#12089
Wait. Did someon compare Hitler to MC?

Wow. Just wow.

I'm impressed really.

MC is the best Protoss player in the world: not because he "cheeses" but because he's able to confidently use the best strategies where appropiate. He exploited the fact Whitera never makes a Zealot, and exploited the fact that there were only cross position spawn locations available on the altered Shakuras (which Whitera wasn't aware of, sucks to be him!).

Oh also. Game 4. That blink micro was sick, I've never seen anyone do blink micro as good as that.
Gurgl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:12:48
April 13 2011 16:12 GMT
#12090
On April 14 2011 00:34 zasda wrote:
The "i don't care about the money only show good game" comment by ra was disappointing to me. Why bother following a player who isn't trying and/or doing his best to win, guaranteed disappointment.


He didn´t say he doesn´t care about money, he said something like "even if I don´t win I have gained alot of community support and that is the most important for me".

If you are a popular player you can earn alot more money from sponsors then from winning tournaments, TLO hasn´t been successful lately but he still got sponsored by Sony Ericsson for MLG because he is popular. It´s the same as in sports, winning is always good but in terms of making money the most popular players/athletes make more money then the most successful ones.
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
April 13 2011 16:15 GMT
#12091
[image loading]

I wonder if MC got some action in Sweden.
minru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
April 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#12092
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.


That's ridiculous if you really think that, but hopefully you're just trolling. Really? You're going to use Communism and Hitler as a metaphor to compare to MC. Let's not get carried away that this is a video game and what MC is doing is not even remotely close to Hitler. MC is doing whatever it takes to win in a video game, he's not hurting or killing anybody here so stop with the drama.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 13 2011 16:19 GMT
#12093
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.



ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.

oh god damn it do people never learn? edit out the first sentence of your post quickly
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
s0ybean
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2 Posts
April 13 2011 16:21 GMT
#12094
are there vods of the whole tournament? The links only show the first round games, and not all of them. help help?
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
April 13 2011 16:21 GMT
#12095
and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.


At the end of the day, despite how much I didn't like him cheesing Whitera, he has to make a living out of it, so yes it is for personal benefit. The benefit of being able to eat and drink.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
aule10
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark52 Posts
April 13 2011 16:26 GMT
#12096
Cheese as you call it is total legal tac and there is a counter to it if whitera had scouted it then he could have done something, but he didn't. Is that mc fault? Nope its not. And btw he is Dobell gsl winner there each gives 7000$ and he lives in koria I don't think that mc needed the 100.000 skr and sponsor contract's to. And go as for to compare him to hitler? wth he just used a tac to end a game fast instead of use a macro heavy tac. ppl grow up life isn't fair and sport isnt fair. deal with it.
Gurgl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden308 Posts
April 13 2011 16:33 GMT
#12097
Haha all this whine about how MC won is hilarious. Some people can´t handle it when their favourite player loses and always has to make excuses for why it happened. White-ra is one of my favourite players and he did great but he didn´t do enough to win it´s as simple as that, the games were still awesome.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
April 13 2011 16:37 GMT
#12098
live report threads never fail to deliver xD

good lord, even godwin's law struck again
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
April 13 2011 16:51 GMT
#12099
On April 13 2011 23:36 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 22:00 Logo2010 wrote:
MC did entertain, did you not see the first 2 games? He could of 4 gated his way to another 3-0. To come back from 2-0 down take a lot of skill and balls. Do you think Whitera could play his eco style in the first 2 games if MC did 4 gate? So haters he does entertain, he gives a sense of opportunity like you can actually beat him in PvP when actually it's not possible.

Out of the 6 possible MUs one relies on an overbearing style to compete successfully. Not too bad for blizzard since the rest of the MUs are pretty darn varied.


This load of BS is so disrespectful to the professional integrity and competence of both MC and white-ra. Typical teenager crapinion...

That post was for people who want to be "entertained". Don't understand how I'm being disrespectful by saying the MC could of 4 gated 3 times in a row. And I'm well beyond my teenage years thank you very much. If you want to take offence at the post, so be it.
nart
Profile Joined March 2011
97 Posts
April 13 2011 16:53 GMT
#12100
On April 14 2011 00:45 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 00:31 Cranberries wrote:
On April 14 2011 00:23 oiceth wrote:
lets all give a cheer to MC, the guy's gunna go back to high school one day the richest kid in the yard, and he'll eat everyone's lunches, and fulfill his dream.

u jelly?

Kid has talent, people bash him for it. It's a wonderful world we live in.

i know i will get banned and i know that nobody will read anyways... but i have to add my 2 cents:

ofc for most people the way how a goal is achieved doesnt matter the slightest... but in my opinion it does.
if you just think "only results matter", then theres no difference between communism and democrathy for you, too? or another example: if a leader of a country wants his countrymen to live in wealth, then the way how he accomplishes doesnt matter? so hitler, who tried to accomplish the goal by killing millions of men and starting a world war is just as good for you like the dalai lama? Probably youre one of those "the winner writes history, so the way doesnt matter" guys. but i beg to differ. in my opinion it does matter how you accomplish your goals

and thats why i dislike mc. i dislike his ways. he does it for his personal benefit only, which doesnt count more or less then in my above example. hitler had "talent", too, but thats no reason to like him. and i dislike mcs way of accomplishing his goals.


User was temp banned for this post.


OK mister politico.
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