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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
HAHA, hold on , let me collect myself, I thought for a second you just said wrestling is a sport | ||
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darksage78
Canada243 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:06 enemy2010 wrote: Wow, i am just imagining MC looking through his match history in battlenet and clicking this one special match thinking "Wow, this match brought me 15.000 dollars." And White-Ra clicking the same match in his match history thinking "Wow, i almost won 15.000 dollar right there." Must be a beastly feeling  Yeah but he didn't care about winning, he just wanted the eSports scene to grow. But I understand what you mean, narrow victory. I will look forward to them in NASL and future Dreamhacks. | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: If the WWE was a sport then I would say it has failed. It is not a sport however it is entertainment and acting. And thus it does a good job. Saying WWE is an example of why you would rather see long macro games all the time is pretty much exactly the point people are trying to make. We want a sport not an act. As a sport we must succeed and not as an act. MMA is a sport and there's plenty of fighters there who fight to win. As such a match that is exciting is actually exciting because you don't get to see it every single time. The discussion has really derailed People are just angry because they were cheering for White ra and it was really anticlimactic for the series to end like it did, you cant argue with angry people. | ||
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NEcropath
United States223 Posts
I must have missed it. GSL WC Semi-Finals I take it? | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:00 Chanted wrote: White-ra played really well, he just dont seem to have the same winner mentality as MC has. How the hell did you come up with that? He wants to win just as bad as MC does but he just had other builds and other strategies planned out. Since when is deciding not to cheese a weakness in mentality? He cut some corners in the last game, that would have helped him get ahead if MC had played a straight up game. It went the other way and MC exploited it. There is really no reason to say White-Ra has a loser's mentality at all. He played incredibly well the whole tournament and he is one of the greatest persons to ever play sc2! I just wish he could've gone home with a little more than just community support. And about his comment about the prize-money: I guess he just knew that he was the underdog and was modest as always. There is no way he didn't want to win it. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:02 wshm wrote: Just no. It's part of the game, if a player can prevent his team from getting eliminated from the world cup do you think he'd care about getting a red card? Also, partecipation for other games is only for bad behaviour (punching, spitting, hurting someone). That was just a technical "illegal" move which is completely contemplated in the game, it does not differ from cheese in any way. If your cheese gets spotted, you lose the game. If their penalty kick scores, you are in the same situation as before but with a player less. The example is more than valid in my opinion. I'm sorry but I am battling to understand what you are trying to say. You say it's not illegal because it's "part of the game". Yet there is punishment for it and a player cannot do it without receiving this punishment(Unless ref/outside ref doesn't see). Nothing else matters. You stated that it wasn't illegal because it could be done but that isn't a valid line of reasoning. It is illegal. I never said your point of it being like cheese didn't stand, merely you were wrong about it being legal. That being said it differs completely from being cheese. You cannot take such an arbitrary comparison and then state you have solved the mystery. That is just complete nonsense. Cheese is a concept within a strategy game. Hand balling and other illegal activities are confined within football. A direct comparison is impossible, you can make some kind of philosophical comparison but I find those rather pointless. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Hahaha, brilliant stuff. XD The whining about the all-ins is pretty annoying, it's a part of the game and they all play to win. | ||
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DaRKMaTT3r
Brazil553 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:07 Mephyss wrote: Well. There is a difference between play for win and gamble for a win. What MC did on last game was a gamble that rely on a mistake of his opponent instead of his own abilitiy of outplay him. And that is what hurts esports. its like watching Rock-Paper-Scissors tournaments. There are just too much luck involved and thats not interesting. That what makes long games more epics. cause the luck factor diminishes every second putting all on players hands Game 2 wasnt a gamble either? Whitera dropped RoboBay and a Nexus at same time. It just works out if he is teching to something... And even so if he doeesnt attack until your nexus/tech pays off, it was a gamble and payed off. | ||
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
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Arpe
202 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:07 Longshank wrote: Of course MC is allowed to cheese in a final game. Just as I as a spectator and fan is allowed to think less of him for doing so. I don't get what the fuss is about. QFT | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:08 NEcropath wrote: I must have missed it. GSL WC Semi-Finals I take it? No, I think it was GSTL February, don't know for sure though. | ||
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:08 NEcropath wrote: I must have missed it. GSL WC Semi-Finals I take it? he did it vs jinro in the gsl and it worked quite well  in season 3 i think that was | ||
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Momildo
Brazil93 Posts
Still, MC showed why he is considered the best. | ||
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mpupu
Argentina183 Posts
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danielsan
Romania399 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:03 hugman wrote: Who's denying it was smart? Do you think it's strange to get upset when the well mannered guy who wouldn't think of all-inning, is up 2-0 against a player with an aura of invincibility and then loses to 3 all-ins in a row? this guy User was warned for this post | ||
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Ren91
United Kingdom190 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:08 coddan wrote: HAHA, hold on , let me collect myself, I thought for a second you just said wrestling is a sport Wrestling is a sport, maybe not the WWE; but it certanly is one and it is one of the oldest in existence  | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:07 mizU wrote: It's fine to get upset that the player you were rooting for lost. But don't bring in how he lost because he has morals. And definitely don't say that oh MC is trash, he shouldn't have won. I didn't say MC was trash, I said I got upset at the last game. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: If the WWE was a sport then I would say it has failed. It is not a sport however it is entertainment and acting. And thus it does a good job. Saying WWE is an example of why you would rather see long macro games all the time is pretty much exactly the point people are trying to make. We want a sport not an act. As a sport we must succeed and not as an act. MMA is a sport and there's plenty of fighters there who fight to win. As such a match that is exciting is actually exciting because you don't get to see it every single time. THIS!!! How often do you hear people who arnt super into MMA go "oh my god why do they lay down and hug each other i hate that. its so boring" Yet for example, UFC, is a billion dollar company now. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On April 13 2011 05:08 NEcropath wrote: I must have missed it. GSL WC Semi-Finals I take it? He played MKP, not NVP in the semis. | ||
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