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caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2881
0/4 Liquibets. I should stop voting based on sympathie.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2882
On April 11 2011 05:35 Bekoj wrote:
Nada was so pissed of by the lag that he supplied block himself, macroed poorly, had terrible timings and queued many units in his barracks. It's the lag, fucking lag !


I agree, and also his unit positioning was bad because of the lag! Lets not forget he could micro a banshe perfectly against TLO, yep, all lag.

Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2883
nada didnt play very well, but kas played great as far as i could tell. i saw this coming. look for kas in future tournaments
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2884
LR Round-up for Ro16 Day 2:

[image loading] (T)FXO.qxc vs [image loading] (P)Mill.Adelscott
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[image loading] (T)oGsNada vs [image loading] (T)Empire.Kas
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ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
nalho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States351 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2885
On April 11 2011 05:36 Ratel wrote:
i dont understand people.
according to some people's logic the only way to prove that you are a good player is to go to Korea and play against Koreans face to face just to satisfy all the fan boys that will blame anything but the player that is responsible for his loss.


This is what you get for an online tournament. There will be players that randomly performs poorly than the player usually does and people blames it on blizzard for lack of LAN, and other things.
i'm jung/i translate bw sometimes
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2886
I'm calling for a Kas vs Naniwa final with Kas winning the whole thing.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2887
On April 11 2011 05:32 Koshi wrote:
Anyway, 4 Europeans in the R8 already.

:D


5 ^^
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2888
it was the lagggggggggg. nada is NOT this bad

User was temp banned for this post.
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
dracido
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany13 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2889
Idra foreigner favourite? hahaha :D


US < Europe !

Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2890
well GG, nice job streaming/casting.

time to go check the automated ban list to see how many people got banned this LR :D
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2891
On April 11 2011 05:34 Sickworld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:32 thisisSSK wrote:
I hate to do this but I have to blame the lag. Has ANYONE seen NaDa play THIS TERRIBLY in Korea? I mean multiple supply blocks, a million queues, low worker counts, etc. Sure, he made some unproductive decisions (i.e. banshee on Crevasse), but overall, its seems like Nada is playing with such sloppiness. Anyways, GG by Kas; he played quite well.

lag may have played a small role but it didnt seem a deciding factor at all. its not like you get supply blocked because of lag. or forget to build workers. or units. you get where im going. it was just sloppy play, with no excuses


that's not true at all

I know that, for me, lag completely throws off my game. Nothing feels right. I get supply blocked, mismicro, slip up on macro, and just generally make retarded decisions when there's a lot of lag.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2892
lol seriously, Nada played one of the worst TvT's ive seen
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2893
On April 11 2011 05:36 Kazang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:33 Aristodemus wrote:
4 in 4 this weekend^^ Starting to think Kas may be the favourite for the title now too.


Kas or Thorzain for sure


Not Thorzain. He showed some nice builds, but his opponents were underperforming. Thorzain didn't prove a lot in other tournies.

Favourites for me are MC, Kas and Naniwa.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2894
I walked away to go to the bathroom, and NaDa was up like 160 supply to 60.

How did he lose?
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2895
On April 11 2011 05:31 Raiznhell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:29 Logo2010 wrote:
On April 11 2011 05:28 Raiznhell wrote:
Honestly I hold most of the foreigner success to the fact that there's so much more tournaments and stuff going on in the foreign scene, it's not just GSL in which the qualifiers almost seem completely luck driven anyways. (Being that most of the surprising awesome players were mainly being showcased in the GSTL)

You're basing that on this match?


No I'm basing it off a lot of foreigner success lately most specifically here in the TSL but also how well foreigners did in the GSL WC despite no making it to Ro4.

the only one that did really well in GSL was dimaga who was the only one to win a series against a korean

everyone else just won best of 1s

can you also explain how qualifiers are based on "luck"? whoever plays better gets in, period
Onos
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada107 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2896
On April 11 2011 05:35 Funkatron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:33 Hot_Bid wrote:
On April 11 2011 05:32 thisisSSK wrote:
I hate to do this but I have to blame the lag. Has ANYONE seen NaDa play THIS TERRIBLY in Korea? I mean multiple supply blocks, a million queues, low worker counts, etc. Sure, he made some unproductive decisions (i.e. banshee on Crevasse), but overall, its seems like Nada is playing with such sloppiness. Anyways, GG by Kas; he played quite well.

I think people are just so biased when it comes to this stuff.

NOBODY blamed lag when Haypro lost to Kas. So many people blame lag when Nada loses to Kas. It's just in your head, what your expectations are.

So true. Can someone explain how lag can make you forget supply? That makes no sense.


Not saying these losses were lag, but if you have small lag issues it can throw your entire game off, not just micro. If basically your game 'stutter-steps' a bit here and there it can get very, very annoying.
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2897
On April 11 2011 05:35 Bekoj wrote:
Nada was so pissed of by the lag that he supplied block himself, macroed poorly, had terrible timings and queued many units in his barracks. It's the lag, fucking lag !


Whilst you're trying to be sarcastic, if you aren't used to the lag from cross server games then your macro will be way worse than usual.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2898
GG, Epic games. Even an epic series of tvt. Gotta love the TSL <3
dr Helvetica <3
NineKOne
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada92 Posts
April 10 2011 20:38 GMT
#2899
Nada did not lose via macro/build-order. Nada lost because of a lack of control.

We all know that Nada is horri-bad at micro, unit control and reaction time, it is common knowledge that he can only focus on 1 things at a time. He doesnt have enough apm to do what needs to be done and Nada needs more experience (he is quite new to the starcraft franchise) playing RTS's.

:l
"It's over 9000!" -V
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
April 10 2011 20:38 GMT
#2900
Many people cannot understand how lag can affect the game play. They really need to try to play under 300ms lag before posting things like '' lag only affect micro, not macro and decision making''. I play 10 times worse when there is lag, because everything goes wrong.

User was temp banned for this post.
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