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Stay on-topic please. Off-topic arguments derailing the thread will not be tolerated. Next spam post about eagles = ban. We get it, you're funnyTake the eagle stuff herestop with the bw vs wc3 bullshit please |
On April 04 2011 10:25 Neplusultra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:23 badDogma wrote:Wow compare this ceremony to ANY other big event like IEM. They got lightshows, confetti, girls, a winners podium.
And MLG just got one guy there shaking his hands saying "congratulations, here you go!". Makes you wonder how MLG spent the ~5mil$ they grossed last year. Ever seen a CEO, COO, CFO, or VPs paycheck? Not much to wonder about.
Posts like these are really frustrating... So silly to think that MLG is a bunch of fat cats rolling in money. Also the assumption that the title CEO somehow guarantees a huge salary is so ridiculous I don't even know where to start.
MLG is very young as compared to the big European e-sports events. In addition to that, the north american RTS scene is just plain smaller than in Europe.
While it is true that MLG had some hiccups during this event(most of which were out of their direct control), it is clear that they want nothing more than to put forth a good product, and in the end of the day this event gave us some really good games.
People really just need to stop depicting MLG as this huge corporate entity cutting corners for profit at every possible place, because really that is just not true. When the qqing reaches the realm of "why wasn't there confetti?!?!" you should just stop.
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ooo, awesome. Liquid at 5th isn't too bad
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On April 04 2011 10:36 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:33 AndAgain wrote:On April 04 2011 10:31 PraetorianX wrote:
BTW here is the prizepool. Naniwa won $5000. Not so much actually.
1st $5000
2nd $3000
3rd $2000
4th $1400
5th $1000
6th $700
7th $500
8th $400
Given the travel expenses, I imagine he got 40 bucks in profit. Somehow I doubt that, unlikely Naniwa would come if it was that costly and out of his own pocket. MLG or someone else probably paid for his travel expenses.
Well I'm sure Dignitas has pretty loaded sponosored team that they can afford to send their few players to MLG over for a weekend.
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On April 04 2011 10:36 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:36 BlackMagister wrote:On April 04 2011 10:33 AndAgain wrote:On April 04 2011 10:31 PraetorianX wrote:
BTW here is the prizepool. Naniwa won $5000. Not so much actually.
1st $5000
2nd $3000
3rd $2000
4th $1400
5th $1000
6th $700
7th $500
8th $400
Given the travel expenses, I imagine he got 40 bucks in profit. Somehow I doubt that, unlikely Naniwa would come if it was that costly and out of his own pocket. MLG paid for him or someone else to get to Dallas most likely. team/sponsors? probably. MLG? def no
He might get a travel stipend for Columbus, as that's what MLG did with the Top 8 last year, but yeah, no way they paid to fly anyone in for the open bracket.
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On April 04 2011 10:32 AntiGrav1ty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:27 Vundox wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 04 2011 10:25 Shadowcloak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:21 loveeholicce wrote:On April 04 2011 10:15 L3g3nd_ wrote:
first place? wc3
second place? wc3
third place? wc3.
Suck on that BW 1st GSL s1? BW 1st GSL s2? BW 1st GSL s3? BW 1st GSL s4? BW 1st GSL s5? BW Suck on that wc3 ^^ Ok so name 3 players that came from wc3 that particaipate in gsl........ take youre time im waiting............. ooo wait indeed there are NONE FoCuS, ReMinD, Moon, Lyn and SocceR now stfu because this isnt the topic of this thread Now you are just lying. Remind has never ever tried to qualify for GSL  But as I said, there just weren't that many korean wc3-pros left at the end. Only a handful switched to sc2, the rest retired or plays wc3 for fun, wheras a TON of old bw-players switched to sc2. Of course they are going to do better in GSL if there are a gazillion more of them who have a shot at winning. In europe WC3 was pretty popular, which is why there are a lot of successful former wc3-players in europe. It has nothin to do with the game but with the amount of people playin. Skillwise bw and wc3 players are pretty even in sc2. It's a new game.
Oh god please... How can you even dare to compare the two?
BW pros that switched to SC2 and are looking great: MC, MVP, Bomber, MMA, to list just a few
WC3 pros that switched and are looking great: .......
okay, looking somewhat good: ...... maybe Lyn? remotely... could make a case for our champ Naniwa, but he's unproven in the big leagues so....
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Anyone know how cruncher's games went? 
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Primadog:
After consolation rounds, the Top 9-16 are as follows:
9. Slush
10. Huk
11. Drewbie
12. Sjow
13. Ret
14. Haypro
15. Machine
16. Tyler
(from LiveBlog)
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I'm really looking forward to what SOTG has to say about mlg
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On April 04 2011 10:37 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:36 BlackMagister wrote:On April 04 2011 10:33 AndAgain wrote:On April 04 2011 10:31 PraetorianX wrote:
BTW here is the prizepool. Naniwa won $5000. Not so much actually.
1st $5000
2nd $3000
3rd $2000
4th $1400
5th $1000
6th $700
7th $500
8th $400
Given the travel expenses, I imagine he got 40 bucks in profit. Somehow I doubt that, unlikely Naniwa would come if it was that costly and out of his own pocket. MLG paid for him or someone else to get to Dallas most likely. maybe "someone else" called dignitas one of the biggest esports clans in the world.
Possibly, but if it was entirely Dignitas' doing to get Naniwa here then there should be no reason Koreans couldn't come to this tournament vs a future one as hinted by Day9 expect for lack of knowledge.
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On April 04 2011 10:38 Duoma wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:25 Neplusultra wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 badDogma wrote:Wow compare this ceremony to ANY other big event like IEM. They got lightshows, confetti, girls, a winners podium.
And MLG just got one guy there shaking his hands saying "congratulations, here you go!". Makes you wonder how MLG spent the ~5mil$ they grossed last year. Ever seen a CEO, COO, CFO, or VPs paycheck? Not much to wonder about. Posts like these are really frustrating... So silly to think that MLG is a bunch of fat cats rolling in money. Also the assumption that the title CEO somehow guarantees a huge salary is so ridiculous I don't even know where to start. MLG is very young as compared to the big European e-sports events. In addition to that, the north american RTS scene is just plain smaller than in Europe. While it is true that MLG had some hiccups during this event(most of which were out of their direct control), it is clear that they want nothing more than to put forth a good product, and in the end of the day this event gave us some really good games. People really just need to stop depicting MLG as this huge corporate entity cutting corners for profit at every possible place, because really that is just not true. When the qqing reaches the realm of "why wasn't there confetti?!?!" you should just stop.
They have a budget of millions and a prize pool equal to community tourneys with 1 or 2 sponsors... so yeah.
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On April 04 2011 10:34 ThaZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:30 funk.master wrote:come on guys , can we reach 1k pages ? Everyone spam semi-useless comments to 1k! I hate extended series to no end. And Naniwa is hilarious, fits the gamer stereotype great, unlike 70% of other top level players. Edit: If you think it cost him $5,000 to be in Dallas you're insane. 600-800, up to 1k if he's really bad with money.
You realise ofcourse that only the planetickets to Dallas and back to Sweden costs something close to 2500 USD. So thats half there allready, then food, living and fare for MLG; not much left of the prizemoney. Just saying; I dont think he can live like a king in the months to come just because of this...
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On April 04 2011 10:39 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:32 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On April 04 2011 10:27 Vundox wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 04 2011 10:25 Shadowcloak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:21 loveeholicce wrote:On April 04 2011 10:15 L3g3nd_ wrote:
first place? wc3
second place? wc3
third place? wc3.
Suck on that BW 1st GSL s1? BW 1st GSL s2? BW 1st GSL s3? BW 1st GSL s4? BW 1st GSL s5? BW Suck on that wc3 ^^ Ok so name 3 players that came from wc3 that particaipate in gsl........ take youre time im waiting............. ooo wait indeed there are NONE FoCuS, ReMinD, Moon, Lyn and SocceR now stfu because this isnt the topic of this thread Now you are just lying. Remind has never ever tried to qualify for GSL But as I said, there just weren't that many korean wc3-pros left at the end. Only a handful switched to sc2, the rest retired or plays wc3 for fun, wheras a TON of old bw-players switched to sc2. Of course they are going to do better in GSL if there are a gazillion more of them who have a shot at winning. In europe WC3 was pretty popular, which is why there are a lot of successful former wc3-players in europe. It has nothin to do with the game but with the amount of people playin. Skillwise bw and wc3 players are pretty even in sc2. It's a new game. Oh god please... How can you even dare to compare the two? BW pros that switched to SC2 and are looking great: MC, MVP, Bomber, MMA, to list just a few WC3 pros that switched and are looking great: ....... okay, looking somewhat good: ...... maybe Lyn? remotely... could make a case for our champ Naniwa, but he's unproven in the big leagues so....
Who freaking cares, enough with this unwarranted bias against WC3 players. You just continuously prove the argument that this bias exists. RTS players are RTS players, we are part of the shame mesh of gamers.
Anyway Grats to Naniwa for basically the most beast performance I've seen since Nestea. Proves he has really upped his game, looking forward to see more of him in TSL3
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anyone got their hands on huk's interview after he lost today? the one which was rumored to be live on mlg site. already saw idra's, they're uploaded to yt.
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On April 04 2011 10:38 pHelix Equilibria wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:36 BlackMagister wrote:On April 04 2011 10:33 AndAgain wrote:On April 04 2011 10:31 PraetorianX wrote:
BTW here is the prizepool. Naniwa won $5000. Not so much actually.
1st $5000
2nd $3000
3rd $2000
4th $1400
5th $1000
6th $700
7th $500
8th $400
Given the travel expenses, I imagine he got 40 bucks in profit. Somehow I doubt that, unlikely Naniwa would come if it was that costly and out of his own pocket. MLG or someone else probably paid for his travel expenses. Well I'm sure Dignitas has pretty loaded sponosored team that they can afford to send their few players to MLG over for a weekend.
Im shocked that people dont realise how big Dignitas is across esports they are the equal of EG or Complexity and Fanatic.
edit and yes TL.
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On April 04 2011 10:40 Altern wrote:
I'm really looking forward to what SOTG has to say about mlg
why? it's just going to be explaining why none of it was MLG's fault. maybe have Sundance on and give more boilerplate apologies for technical issues and promises that future events will be smooth.
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On April 04 2011 10:42 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:38 pHelix Equilibria wrote:On April 04 2011 10:36 BlackMagister wrote:On April 04 2011 10:33 AndAgain wrote:On April 04 2011 10:31 PraetorianX wrote:
BTW here is the prizepool. Naniwa won $5000. Not so much actually.
1st $5000
2nd $3000
3rd $2000
4th $1400
5th $1000
6th $700
7th $500
8th $400
Given the travel expenses, I imagine he got 40 bucks in profit. Somehow I doubt that, unlikely Naniwa would come if it was that costly and out of his own pocket. MLG or someone else probably paid for his travel expenses. Well I'm sure Dignitas has pretty loaded sponosored team that they can afford to send their few players to MLG over for a weekend. Im shocked that people dont realise how big Dignitas is across esports they are the equal of EG or Complexity and Fanatic. edit and yes TL.
Root?
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On April 04 2011 10:41 artanis2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:38 Duoma wrote:On April 04 2011 10:25 Neplusultra wrote:On April 04 2011 10:23 badDogma wrote:Wow compare this ceremony to ANY other big event like IEM. They got lightshows, confetti, girls, a winners podium.
And MLG just got one guy there shaking his hands saying "congratulations, here you go!". Makes you wonder how MLG spent the ~5mil$ they grossed last year. Ever seen a CEO, COO, CFO, or VPs paycheck? Not much to wonder about. Posts like these are really frustrating... So silly to think that MLG is a bunch of fat cats rolling in money. Also the assumption that the title CEO somehow guarantees a huge salary is so ridiculous I don't even know where to start. MLG is very young as compared to the big European e-sports events. In addition to that, the north american RTS scene is just plain smaller than in Europe. While it is true that MLG had some hiccups during this event(most of which were out of their direct control), it is clear that they want nothing more than to put forth a good product, and in the end of the day this event gave us some really good games. People really just need to stop depicting MLG as this huge corporate entity cutting corners for profit at every possible place, because really that is just not true. When the qqing reaches the realm of "why wasn't there confetti?!?!" you should just stop. They have a budget of millions and a prize pool equal to community tourneys with 1 or 2 sponsors... so yeah.
dont forget that the prize pool is actually smaller than the money the players themselves contribute by paying $70 each to play...
208 * $70 = 14560
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On April 04 2011 10:41 s031720 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:34 ThaZenith wrote:On April 04 2011 10:30 funk.master wrote:come on guys , can we reach 1k pages ? Everyone spam semi-useless comments to 1k! I hate extended series to no end. And Naniwa is hilarious, fits the gamer stereotype great, unlike 70% of other top level players. Edit: If you think it cost him $5,000 to be in Dallas you're insane. 600-800, up to 1k if he's really bad with money. You realise ofcourse that only the planetickets to Dallas and back to Sweden costs something close to 2500 USD. So thats half there allready, then food, living and fare for MLG; not much left of the prizemoney. Just saying; I dont think he can live like a king in the months to come just because of this...
I doubt that Naniwa is using his prize money to be at MLG. Dignitas is a pretty well established team. With sponsors like Intel to Logitech. They are sponsored. Companies are willing to pay for their team because the players wear their logo. Its not like Nascar drivers have to pay for their gas for races.
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