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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 01 2011 03:06 GMT
#421
maybe they got rid of the rule now that idra is gone
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
April 01 2011 03:08 GMT
#422
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 01 2011 03:10 GMT
#423
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


As a Protoss I can tell you NO ONE likes being complimented on 4 gating.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 01 2011 03:10 GMT
#424
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I personally thought it was a bit obvious that the comment was supposed to be sarcastic, simply because of the context, but I remained on the fence just because it was WhiteRa saying it. Like you said, if you compliment someone for doing something cheesy, it's incredibly easy to interpret as sarcasm. "Wow, your cannon rush is excellent." "Wow, your 2rax SCV all-in is so gosu". What makes those any different from "Wow, your 4gate is so good" other than how 4gate is arguable a bit less cheesy?
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
April 01 2011 03:11 GMT
#425
On April 01 2011 12:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
maybe they got rid of the rule now that idra is gone


Hahaha. Well, to his credit, I believe Idra has actually typed GG in every GSL game he lost. That is, unless there really is a rule that forces players to type GG before leaving the game.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:14:04
April 01 2011 03:12 GMT
#426
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I had initially thought of it as a compliment too, until I saw Kelly Milkies's interview with him, where he was clearly pissed at getting 4gated.

http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282628325 First 2 minutes... explains White-Ra's comment against San. This leads me (and most people on the other thread, regardless of White-Ra's golden reputation and initial thought of his tone) to believe that he was being sarcastic.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:27:09
April 01 2011 03:23 GMT
#427
On April 01 2011 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I had initially thought of it as a compliment too, until I saw Kelly Milkies's interview with him, where he was clearly pissed at getting 4gated.

http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282628325 First 2 minutes... explains White-Ra's comment against San. This leads me (and most people on the other thread, regardless of White-Ra's golden reputation and initial thought of his tone) to believe that he was being sarcastic.

To clarify, I did not think it was a genuine compliment but rather a backhanded compliment. In other words - an insult disguised as a compliment.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:27:19
April 01 2011 03:27 GMT
#428
On April 01 2011 12:23 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I had initially thought of it as a compliment too, until I saw Kelly Milkies's interview with him, where he was clearly pissed at getting 4gated.

http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282628325 First 2 minutes... explains White-Ra's comment against San. This leads me (and most people on the other thread, regardless of White-Ra's golden reputation and initial thought of his tone) to believe that he was being sarcastic.

To clarify, I did not think it was a genuine compliment but rather a backhanded compliment. In other words - a compliment disguised as an insult.


Ah okay. After watching that video, do you still feel that way? I consider White-Ra to be a very genuine person, and I can't really picture him trying to cross language barriers, conquering reverse-sarcasm, and dealing out a backhanded compliment, when he could have just said "gg" like always if he meant it. But I could be wrong.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:38:18
April 01 2011 03:33 GMT
#429
On April 01 2011 11:20 Logo2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 11:13 iamke55 wrote:
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. This guy took MC to a game 7, in a patch that contained Khaydarin Amulet.

Yeah he must of been a happy camper when KA finally got removed. Free ownage for Bomber.

Wait until everyone starts copying his style and then P gets QQed again, then Terran gets nerf and round and round we gooo!


His style? LOL!

You really think just any Terran out there on ladder can match what Bomber has? It's more than just a simple unit composition or build order or opening tactical play. It's his scouting, his attack timings, his responses, his expansion timings - his decision making in general - his micro, his macro. It's because he's good. That's why he's winning. Protoss aren't going to "QQ" simply because one Terran that happens to bring a unique set of abilities happens to be stomping Protoss left and right, at least for the time being.


On April 01 2011 11:26 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 11:22 HolyArrow wrote:
Holy shit. The fact that Bomber dominated so hard here yet got pretty badly and very convincingly schooled by Ryung really makes the SlayerS team seem even better (or Bomber was really off his game that day)


Hm, ya, don't judge anything off one game. Look at Bombers game history: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/561_Bobby M. Ber


Um... His recent game history is pretty spectacular. ~79% winning rate overall, with 90% against Protoss.
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
April 01 2011 03:37 GMT
#430
On April 01 2011 12:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 12:23 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I had initially thought of it as a compliment too, until I saw Kelly Milkies's interview with him, where he was clearly pissed at getting 4gated.

http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282628325 First 2 minutes... explains White-Ra's comment against San. This leads me (and most people on the other thread, regardless of White-Ra's golden reputation and initial thought of his tone) to believe that he was being sarcastic.

To clarify, I did not think it was a genuine compliment but rather a backhanded compliment. In other words - a compliment disguised as an insult.


Ah okay. After watching that video, do you still feel that way? I consider White-Ra to be a very genuine person, and I can't really picture him trying to cross language barriers, conquering reverse-sarcasm, and dealing out a backhanded compliment, when he could have just said "gg" like always if he meant it. But I could be wrong.

Sorry, edited my previous post for clarity.

I'm not judging White-Ra as a person. I'm sure he's a nice guy but for this one instance, frustration gets the better of him and he ends up insulting another player. It happens. Jinro blew up last night but managed not to BM the other player(probably was being harder on himself). It happens.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 01 2011 03:37 GMT
#431
no man, just play as good as bomber, easy
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:41:21
April 01 2011 03:40 GMT
#432
On April 01 2011 12:37 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 12:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:23 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:28 deerpark87 wrote:
WhiteRa 4gate after what he say at gsl? gosu...


The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I had initially thought of it as a compliment too, until I saw Kelly Milkies's interview with him, where he was clearly pissed at getting 4gated.

http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282628325 First 2 minutes... explains White-Ra's comment against San. This leads me (and most people on the other thread, regardless of White-Ra's golden reputation and initial thought of his tone) to believe that he was being sarcastic.

To clarify, I did not think it was a genuine compliment but rather a backhanded compliment. In other words - a compliment disguised as an insult.


Ah okay. After watching that video, do you still feel that way? I consider White-Ra to be a very genuine person, and I can't really picture him trying to cross language barriers, conquering reverse-sarcasm, and dealing out a backhanded compliment, when he could have just said "gg" like always if he meant it. But I could be wrong.

Sorry, edited my previous post for clarity.

I'm not judging White-Ra as a person. I'm sure he's a nice guy but for this one instance, frustration gets the better of him and he ends up insulting another player. It happens. Jinro blew up last night but managed not to BM the other player(probably was being harder on himself). It happens.

"it happens" is not an excuse to do it on a televised match considering no one else has EVER done that in GSL previously, and I couldn't see any other player except idra saying something like that

he's representing himself, his team, his country in the world GSL

honestly, whitera needs to get over it, he was outplayed, outmicro'd, whatever you want to call it when he knew it was coming 100%
nat
Profile Joined September 2010
216 Posts
April 01 2011 03:42 GMT
#433
Bomber is godly....i thought TvP is hopeless. He makes it looks like a joke
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
April 01 2011 03:49 GMT
#434
On April 01 2011 12:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 12:37 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:23 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 12:08 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:40 Sein wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2011 11:31 00Visor wrote:
[quote]

The "gosu 4gate" was a totally serious compliment by White-Ra. He would never whine.
And 4gate is a strong part of the game, so don't whine either.


Actually, White-Ra confirmed in an interview that his comment was a whine, not a compliment. Many people, including myself, were shocked, considering he's well-known for being extremely good-mannered. He felt that the 4gate was too simple a strategy and he was hoping to play a longer game. However, he shouldn't have been caught off guard by it.


Thanks for clearing that up. I was also wondering about that myself after watching the White-Ra vs. San series. If it was Idra saying something like that, I would've assumed that it was just another one of those "very useful skill toi have" type of ragequit, but since it was White-Ra and all, I wasn't sure if he actually meant to compliment San. I guess everyone rages every once in a while.


That's exactly what I had first posted after the match ended (along with many others), comparing the assumed tone of an IdrA post to that of a White-Ra post. We all thought he was being sincere lol. Whoops >.>

Even those who are known to stay calm, cool, and collected can lose it, it seems. I don't always blame them, either. Definitely high pressure situations.

I viewed it as a backhanded compliment. Just imagine yourself being a protoss player getting complimented on your 4gate. Or complimenting a terran for a bunker rush. But that's what terrans do - they bunker rush! And that's what protosses do - they 4gate! To unnecessarily compliment them for something they would naturally do is BM. I don't have anything against BM, I find it rather funny. However, White-Ra has tried to maintain an image of being well mannered.


I had initially thought of it as a compliment too, until I saw Kelly Milkies's interview with him, where he was clearly pissed at getting 4gated.

http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282628325 First 2 minutes... explains White-Ra's comment against San. This leads me (and most people on the other thread, regardless of White-Ra's golden reputation and initial thought of his tone) to believe that he was being sarcastic.

To clarify, I did not think it was a genuine compliment but rather a backhanded compliment. In other words - a compliment disguised as an insult.


Ah okay. After watching that video, do you still feel that way? I consider White-Ra to be a very genuine person, and I can't really picture him trying to cross language barriers, conquering reverse-sarcasm, and dealing out a backhanded compliment, when he could have just said "gg" like always if he meant it. But I could be wrong.

Sorry, edited my previous post for clarity.

I'm not judging White-Ra as a person. I'm sure he's a nice guy but for this one instance, frustration gets the better of him and he ends up insulting another player. It happens. Jinro blew up last night but managed not to BM the other player(probably was being harder on himself). It happens.

"it happens" is not an excuse to do it on a televised match considering no one else has EVER done that in GSL previously, and I couldn't see any other player except idra saying something like that

he's representing himself, his team, his country in the world GSL

honestly, whitera needs to get over it, he was outplayed, outmicro'd, whatever you want to call it when he knew it was coming 100%

I agree with you and I'm not saying it's an excuse. I only say that it's understandable since no doubt many of us have had the same feeling. It happened, get over it and move on. This incident is an anomaly. If it were to become the norm, I would be concerned
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:51:37
April 01 2011 03:51 GMT
#435
Just felt like adding, great job by ICCup with this, don't often get to see a series like this without the question of lag.
Also, I was totally unfamiliar with those maps but I thought they looked very well designed for the most part.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 03:54:12
April 01 2011 03:53 GMT
#436
On April 01 2011 12:51 GwSC wrote:
Just felt like adding, great job by ICCup with this, don't often get to see a series like this without the question of lag.
Also, I was totally unfamiliar with those maps but I thought they looked very well designed for the most part.



Thank you sir! Be sure to check out Nationvoice as well as they let an event like this happen! Glad you enjoyed it! And always good to hear about our maps so thanks again! :D
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
April 01 2011 04:01 GMT
#437
Gj Bomber.
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dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
April 01 2011 04:12 GMT
#438
It's so weird that some Terrans totally understand this matchup where-as others look clueless and lose to much lesser players. Every Terran can learn something from Bomber. Thanks for the great series, was a great watch!
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 01 2011 04:14 GMT
#439
Oh damn, missed this
Were the games good?
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
April 01 2011 04:20 GMT
#440
What's funny is that the only game we saw White Ra win today was with the help of our good friend the four gate....just saying....
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
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