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[GCPL Grand Final] Fnatic vs Dignitas - Page 17

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CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
March 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#321
phoenixes are SENseless!
There is no unemployment amongst overlords-Artosis
Nuri
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand280 Posts
March 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#322
These were really fun games. ACE match was basically Micro King vs Macro King :D
The biggest risk in life is not taking any risks at all
TheCrow
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway296 Posts
March 20 2011 22:56 GMT
#323
Gratz to Fnatic. Just love Sen's play. A real inspiration to us zergs out there.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 20 2011 22:56 GMT
#324
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
March 20 2011 22:56 GMT
#325
On March 21 2011 07:51 ssregitoss wrote:
sen lost 2 queens and lots of overlords how he survived i dont understand.in bw this is imposibble.

Because his opponent then transitioned into useless tech and didn't do any additional harass.
Immortals and a robotics bay vs ling mutalisk?

Also while Sen lost a lot of queens, he didn't waste money on useless tech (e.g. hydra den), and he didn't lose GAS, he only lost minerals.
He also had more drones than there were probes, and no pressure was put on beyond the phoenix, so he was basically left alone apart from the phoenix.

Yes, killing queens and overlords is damaging, but Sen was always ahead in drone count, didn't lose anything valuable (things which use gas) and was then able to kill the hard counter to his tech choice (phoenix vs mutalisk), following a really bad protoss tech choice (immortals and a robotics bay) and a lack of continued stargate production.

Then there was the mis-micro at the end with forcefields, and it was easy to survive.
HOLY CHECK!
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 20 2011 22:56 GMT
#326
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Sen is better than idra.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 22:59:21
March 20 2011 22:57 GMT
#327
On March 21 2011 07:51 Krikan wrote:
Awh, I just feel bad for Naniwa to be honest. So hard to be happy for the winner in team tournies like this cause I know from experience how terrible it feels loosing for your team.


Considering Naniwa won several aces for Dignitas already, including defeating Idra 2-1, and closing the series 2-3 against Sen, I don't think he'll be *too* upset although he is known to rage so who knows

Anyways, Sen has done for Fnatic what Idra could not do for EG - defeat Naniwa, who is probably one of the best PvZ if not the best PvZ in the foreigner's scene, at a time when Protoss is dominating Zerg left and right. Truly amazing play even if Naniwa didn't play perfectly. Sen has shown why Fnatic put their trust in him.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 20 2011 22:57 GMT
#328
On March 21 2011 07:56 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Sen is better than idra.

Well, except for the fact that you're completely wrong, sure.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
March 20 2011 22:57 GMT
#329
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Don't expect Skyze to say anything about IdrA that is complimentary.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
March 20 2011 22:58 GMT
#330
On March 21 2011 07:53 Butcherski wrote:
Meh those phoenixes didnt really do alot of dmg. I can tell you from experience whenever i see those -5 phoenixes and they decide to go for ovies/queens im happy just rebuilding them while droning and usually you come out atleast even. He cant push having invested that much money into the stargate and you lost only minerals with as we all know isnt really that big of a deal when the zerg didnt loose any drones.

Awesome play by sen btw.


this is EXACTLY what's on Sen's mind. He has been telling me about how happy he is when protoss goes phoenix build and aims for his overlords and queens so he can comfortably pumping drone and overrun people with his strong mechanics. SEn's GSL debut game 2 anyone?
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
March 20 2011 22:58 GMT
#331
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Well, IdrA lost to Naniwa in the same situation.. didn't he? Anyway, congrats Fnatic .. thought Sen had lost the game after that early Phoenix play from Naniwa
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 20 2011 22:58 GMT
#332
On March 21 2011 07:58 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Well, IdrA lost to Naniwa in the same situation.. didn't he? Anyway, congrats Fnatic .. thought Sen had lost the game after that early Phoenix play from Naniwa

Yes...and that doesnt really mean much since it's a sample size of matches against one other player. Dont see the logic there.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 20 2011 22:59 GMT
#333
Learn to interpret emoticons.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 20 2011 23:00 GMT
#334
While Idra is really good, I can't help but feel that outcome would've been to dignitas' favour if Idra played that ace instead of Sen. They're both amazing players in their own right though.
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
March 20 2011 23:01 GMT
#335
On March 21 2011 07:56 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Sen is better than idra.

well i think Idra is still little better at this point.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
March 20 2011 23:01 GMT
#336
Honestly.... Dimaga.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 20 2011 23:01 GMT
#337
WOW!! Very impressive win from Fnatic!! GGs!!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
March 20 2011 23:02 GMT
#338
Without any emoticons, Sen just played way better against Naniwa then Idra did which doesn't make him the better zerg automaticly.
CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
March 20 2011 23:02 GMT
#339
On March 21 2011 08:01 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:56 bkrow wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:49 Skyze wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:47 Asha` wrote:
Ouch, Nani missed a forcefield by about a grid and just got wrapped up by lings

GG's


Sen is the best foreigner zerg, by far.. so not surprised at all he won this

Lol - IdrA?


Sen is better than idra.

well i think Idra is still little better at this point.


Does this really have to turn into a who's better argument? They both have completely unique styles and are both incredibly good.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 20 2011 23:02 GMT
#340
Meh i know i started it but i please don't turn this into a Sen vs IdrA thread hehe

Fnatic was just insane right there! Such a crazy series..

Awesome end to an incredible team league
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
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