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Any balance whining/complaining/bad manner shit of ANY SORT is automatic temp ban.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
March 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#1341
I hope this set goes 1-1, I want to see an epic TvT on Crevasse
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
March 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#1342
On March 16 2011 19:53 SuperStyle wrote:
I think its fair to say that terran is by far the weakest race.
Yes i did register to only say this because im tired of zerg qq about how weak their race when actually terran is the one thats far weaker.

it's also fair to say this is the wrong thread to qq for any race. do not discuss balance here.
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
March 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#1343
On March 16 2011 19:49 Dommk wrote:
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On March 16 2011 19:47 Contradictions wrote:
Looks like MVP has been in a huge slump lately..

SC2Rank:

[image loading]

Wow, wasn't MVP on like a 70% win/loss before? Damn...


Looking at his match history, he's been mostly playing custom games, so that doesn't mean anything.

Heck, Jinro is still in diamond - he just plays custom games with his teammates I think.
Torumfroll
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
290 Posts
March 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#1344
On March 16 2011 19:53 SuperStyle wrote:
I think its fair to say that terran is by far the weakest race.
Yes i did register to only say this because im tired of zerg qq about how weak their race when actually terran is the one thats far weaker.

Please elaborate.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#1345
On March 16 2011 19:50 Bergys wrote:
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On March 16 2011 19:48 pyro19 wrote:
Everybody should get ready for PVP Semis and Finals next year.

However so many Protosses does mean that the balance of the game is a bit off.


Are you trolling lol? You do realize that every season before this have had like 50% terrans in every round, even 75% in a lot of the later rounds. Just because terran no longer can a-move MMM to victory doesn't mean terran is UP, it just means you need to l2p in other ways and since you've only been playing MMM for the last 8 months that's going to take some readjusting.

Yea nothing has changed in terms of balance since last season when terran was dominating, they just cant stay on t1 + a bit of t2 the whole game and expect to win
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
March 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#1346
On March 16 2011 19:51 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 19:47 Contradictions wrote:
Looks like MVP has been in a huge slump lately..

SC2Rank:

[image loading]

i think he won a bunch of money and just started slacking off, was probably a broke ass before doesnt know how to deal with the money


The day I win $80K from playing a video game, you bet your ass I'm not taking very many things seriously for the next month or so.. (probably longer)
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1347
Can anyone give me a short summary about how MVP was knocked down? Woke up late today
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1348
Rain vs TOP starting on Scrap Station, TOP at the bottom (2 o clock), Rain at the top (12 o clock)
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1349
On March 16 2011 19:52 ondik wrote:
Terrans crying about imbalance in LR thread..and I thought this day would never come!

It is the same four people whining over and over again in this thread, it is so pathetic. I don't think we should group "Terrans" with them, because clearly there are Terrans here that haven't resorted to passive aggressive balance whinning
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1350
Lets goooooooooo rain
Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1351
[image loading]
Liquid'HuK "That's Halo, don't worry"
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1352
Both getting early gases
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1353
On March 16 2011 19:54 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 19:49 Dommk wrote:
On March 16 2011 19:47 Contradictions wrote:
Looks like MVP has been in a huge slump lately..

SC2Rank:

[image loading]

Wow, wasn't MVP on like a 70% win/loss before? Damn...


Looking at his match history, he's been mostly playing custom games, so that doesn't mean anything.

Heck, Jinro is still in diamond - he just plays custom games with his teammates I think.

No Jinro is actually a diamond player in Code S :D

I think he has a smurf account as well, not sure how much he ladders with it though.
Contradictions
Profile Joined January 2011
50 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1354
On March 16 2011 17:25 FXOpen wrote:
I want alicia to go up to code S he truely deserves it. But i have a funny feeling MVP might go down to code A.. Call me crazy.


By the way, nice star sense.
PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1355
On March 16 2011 19:41 Jotoco wrote:
The funny thing here is that IMvP was OUTPLAYED by Alicia AND Genius. And it has nothing to do with possible imbalances.

MVP won exactly 1 game. The one game where he built SIEGE TANKS.

MVP, I'm sorry, but pure bio doesn't seem to work against half-decent protoss. Maybe you should add more tanks.


Tanks are map-sensitive. MKP tried to do a tank+marine attack on Xel'Naga and he lost horribly because it has a serious weakness.

If you do a one-rax into tanks, you can get crushed by a smart 4-gate. It's not even possible to defend on a map with a wide-open choke like Xel'Naga. You need a very particular map, which is why MVP used it when he did - tiny choke, easily defensible with his amazing micro. It was a build very carefully tailored to the map on which he used it, and it was as effective as it was because Alicia's greedy late detection crippled his econ and delayed his HT so badly that MVP was already sieged at his nat by the time he could storm.

Suppose it's a map that doesn't have a tiny choke at the nat. You delay the FE until you have tanks and siege mode out. But now you don't have enough gas for ravens in decent time, and you NEED a raven on any map where the protoss can get a pylon's radii into your main (that's pretty much all of them) or you'll lose to DTs. They don't need a stargate, since they have hallucination. You're also precluding the possibility of tanks and cloak banshees, so you can't put any pressure on P if he skips detection.

Now that's all assuming he doesn't go for some sort of starport play, which will mess up your tank builds very badly with proper micro. Phoenixes can lift them, or void rays can hold you in your base and force you to build vikings, allowing him to aggressively expand and start massing up HTs. That's another meta-game consideration you have to make.

So try to look at those type of factors before reducing it to something as simplistic as "no tanks = lose, tanks = win."
http://tkrmx.blogspot.com/
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1356
On March 16 2011 19:54 Torumfroll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 19:53 SuperStyle wrote:
I think its fair to say that terran is by far the weakest race.
Yes i did register to only say this because im tired of zerg qq about how weak their race when actually terran is the one thats far weaker.

Please elaborate.


Did you guys not read any of the red text that has been plastered all over the past few LR thread, this is not a place for balance discussions, mods are handing out temp bans now. Keep it to the game.
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1357
Lol, my internet broke before GSL and now it finally went back up and I missed my main man Genius!
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8594 Posts
March 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#1358
On March 16 2011 19:52 Crashburn wrote:
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On March 16 2011 19:51 cuppatea wrote:
On March 16 2011 19:47 sqrt wrote:
On March 16 2011 19:45 link0 wrote:
T v P is so broken right now at the top level, it's not even funny.


PvT is at 44.2% atm, definitely favoring Terran. MvP just got outplayed.


PvT in Code S this season is 18-8 (69.2%).


Small sample size.

Your confidence interval is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge with only 26 games.


Yes but you will see an increasing gameset with this winpercentage in the future. I predict protoss will dominate the future until blizzard will fix their complete concept.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
March 16 2011 10:56 GMT
#1359
On March 16 2011 19:54 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 19:51 cheesemaster wrote:
On March 16 2011 19:47 Contradictions wrote:
Looks like MVP has been in a huge slump lately..

SC2Rank:

[image loading]

i think he won a bunch of money and just started slacking off, was probably a broke ass before doesnt know how to deal with the money


The day I win $80K from playing a video game, you bet your ass I'm not taking very many things seriously for the next month or so.. (probably longer)

actually he won ~45k, not the usual 87k fruitdealer, nestea, MC got.

Just sayin', not disagreeing with your point or anything, i didn't actually read your entire post.
Armsved
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark642 Posts
March 16 2011 10:56 GMT
#1360
On March 16 2011 19:52 Crashburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 19:51 cuppatea wrote:
On March 16 2011 19:47 sqrt wrote:
On March 16 2011 19:45 link0 wrote:
T v P is so broken right now at the top level, it's not even funny.


PvT is at 44.2% atm, definitely favoring Terran. MvP just got outplayed.


PvT in Code S this season is 18-8 (69.2%).


Small sample size.

Your confidence interval is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge with only 26 games.


You can make it from GSL-TL, GSL Code-S, Assembly and IEM. You will get the same stats. Protoss rapes terran atm.
YOOO
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