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ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
March 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#1501
man wanted to see a b ig come back with pure micro.. dammm!!
MiKTeX
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States234 Posts
March 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#1502
nooooooooooooooooooooo boxer! my liquibet!
Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
March 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#1503
On March 15 2011 21:18 shadymmj wrote:
i just dont understand how one of the greatest and smartest starcraft players of all time can fall from the top league

something must be broke with the game


I just don't understand how you don't understand.

Maybe this is an entirely different game than the one he was greatest and smartest at?

Maybe he is getting older now and his reflexes and mechanics aren't as good as they were?

Maybe he doesn't practice as hard because of his age and other commitments?

Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
GetToDaChopa
Profile Joined September 2010
United States206 Posts
March 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#1504
On March 15 2011 20:54 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:51 GetToDaChopa wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:46 cascades wrote:
Boxer fails to sieg up in time, banelings do massive damage again.


No, it looks that way because Zenio is zerg and made one mistake so he lost the game.


What a stupid comment. Do you even think or do you just cry everytime a zerg loses?

Giving up bases while you're far ahead and can easily counter attack/defend it. What a minor mistake, he definitely lost because he was Zerg.

God it's so boring getting to see these comments in EVERY SINGLE LR thread that has a Zerg playing. Just because you're zerg, doesn't mean you can't be outplayed. Not every single thing comes down to game balance.


Dunc - Sarcasm. Sarcasm - Dunc. I don't believe you've met. Ever. But, yeaaaaaaaa thanks for the advice. You've really opened up my eyes toward the game and exposed a new truth I never knew existed.


*this is for Dunc* - heyy that was "sarcasm". Just-so-you-don't-get-confused. bro!
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
March 15 2011 12:25 GMT
#1505
On March 15 2011 21:23 Lann555 wrote:
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On March 15 2011 21:21 teamsolid wrote:
Boxer could be such an amazing player... but WHY doesn't he just expand more while he's being aggressive. When you have siege tanks + marines in the Zerg's face he can't really do anything to stop your expos from going up. If Boxer just took his top left base (2nd nat) at ANY point during that game, even floating CC's if necessary, while doing his attacks, he would've won for sure.


Well, he didn't evne have enough SCV to saturate one base. He kept losing them throughout the game and never actually remade them.

Hope he can fix some of the holes in his game and come back because he is truly one of the greatest players to watch

It doesn't even matter. Simply having another CC = more MULEs which pays for itself very quickly and if it's a planetary, it can't even really be counterattacked that well.
Jandos
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Czech Republic928 Posts
March 15 2011 12:25 GMT
#1506
I am so sad for Boxer
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
March 15 2011 12:25 GMT
#1507
Even if some of his play is still a little rough around the edges, I always feel inspired to go play after watching him. I just hope the emperor doesn't lose the fight in him and wins code a next season.
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 12:26:12
March 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#1508
On March 15 2011 21:24 MiKTeX wrote:
nooooooooooooooooooooo boxer! my liquibet!

Boxer is in Code A and you care about your liquibet? WAT?!

Sad day...but Boxer was fighting so hard until the end! A true hero!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#1509
On March 15 2011 21:24 GetToDaChopa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:54 dunc wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:51 GetToDaChopa wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:46 cascades wrote:
Boxer fails to sieg up in time, banelings do massive damage again.


No, it looks that way because Zenio is zerg and made one mistake so he lost the game.


What a stupid comment. Do you even think or do you just cry everytime a zerg loses?

Giving up bases while you're far ahead and can easily counter attack/defend it. What a minor mistake, he definitely lost because he was Zerg.

God it's so boring getting to see these comments in EVERY SINGLE LR thread that has a Zerg playing. Just because you're zerg, doesn't mean you can't be outplayed. Not every single thing comes down to game balance.


Dunc - Sarcasm. Sarcasm - Dunc. I don't believe you've met. Ever. But, yeaaaaaaaa thanks for the advice. You've really opened up my eyes toward the game and exposed a new truth I never knew existed.


*this is for Dunc* - heyy that was "sarcasm". Just-so-you-don't-get-confused. bro!


Ah yeah, so easy to expect sarcasm on a forum where people actually make that sort of comment at least once a page.

You got me.
Ashok
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia339 Posts
March 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#1510
On March 15 2011 21:24 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 21:21 cascades wrote:
On March 15 2011 21:21 papaz wrote:
On March 15 2011 21:19 JSH wrote:
On March 15 2011 21:18 Lann555 wrote:
Sigh, Boxer is such a smart player, but his mechanics are WAY underpar to compete at this level. Getting supply-blocked, poor SCV production, 200 energy on OC's.....


Man, I feel sad


I saw him que up 5 tanks in one of his factory D:


the "mechanics" you are talking about is called macro.

You honestly gonna say his micro isn't up there with the best?


MKP has better marine splits tbh.

MKP has far worse decision-making/tactical nous than BoxeR. MKP's games sometimes resemble shoving square blocks into a round hole - only that his marine splits make it slightly likelier.


WTF? MKP is regarded as having one of the best decision making skills in SC2. He came back and beat Nada and Jinro in base trades, and took a hidden gold against Jinro. Dude is a total baller.
Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
March 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#1511
Go Zenio!
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
March 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#1512
On March 15 2011 21:24 GetToDaChopa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:54 dunc wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:51 GetToDaChopa wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:46 cascades wrote:
Boxer fails to sieg up in time, banelings do massive damage again.


No, it looks that way because Zenio is zerg and made one mistake so he lost the game.


What a stupid comment. Do you even think or do you just cry everytime a zerg loses?

Giving up bases while you're far ahead and can easily counter attack/defend it. What a minor mistake, he definitely lost because he was Zerg.

God it's so boring getting to see these comments in EVERY SINGLE LR thread that has a Zerg playing. Just because you're zerg, doesn't mean you can't be outplayed. Not every single thing comes down to game balance.


Dunc - Sarcasm. Sarcasm - Dunc. I don't believe you've met. Ever. But, yeaaaaaaaa thanks for the advice. You've really opened up my eyes toward the game and exposed a new truth I never knew existed.


*this is for Dunc* - heyy that was "sarcasm". Just-so-you-don't-get-confused. bro!


Sounds more like backpedaling rather than sarcasm.
What this
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
March 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#1513
+ Show Spoiler [ Zenio: What have I done?] +
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Zeiryuu
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines231 Posts
March 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#1514
Yea, Boxer hasn't really been a force in GSL. But just by being the "Boxer" of esports makes so many of us trust that in time he WILL come back. If any of you have lost faith in Boxer, watch his documentary. Boxer=charisma.

And to be fair also, Zenio did well.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#1515
On March 15 2011 21:23 antilyon wrote:
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On March 15 2011 21:17 ihasaKAROT wrote:
GG! The better player won. Im glad boxer is in Code A where he belongs imo

You sir, have no heart.

It is super cruel. But I don't know if Boxer is currently in the top 32. I would say he is, because I dont find him less than L and Lyn is top 4. But I don't know.
I have faith he will make r8 in Code A though, but there are SO MANY good players in code A next season.
I had a good night of sleep.
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
March 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#1516
Don't belittle that amazing entertaining game with imbalance talks.
Just treat it as really good entertainment
K4m4Hl
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria100 Posts
March 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#1517
is there any way 2 watch those w/o having a gom premium?
Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
March 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#1518
On March 15 2011 21:24 GetToDaChopa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:54 dunc wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:51 GetToDaChopa wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:46 cascades wrote:
Boxer fails to sieg up in time, banelings do massive damage again.


No, it looks that way because Zenio is zerg and made one mistake so he lost the game.


What a stupid comment. Do you even think or do you just cry everytime a zerg loses?

Giving up bases while you're far ahead and can easily counter attack/defend it. What a minor mistake, he definitely lost because he was Zerg.

God it's so boring getting to see these comments in EVERY SINGLE LR thread that has a Zerg playing. Just because you're zerg, doesn't mean you can't be outplayed. Not every single thing comes down to game balance.


Dunc - Sarcasm. Sarcasm - Dunc. I don't believe you've met. Ever. But, yeaaaaaaaa thanks for the advice. You've really opened up my eyes toward the game and exposed a new truth I never knew existed.


*this is for Dunc* - heyy that was "sarcasm". Just-so-you-don't-get-confused. bro!


way to chalk it up to sarcasm when you get called out; there was no way to detect said sarcasm there
Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
March 15 2011 12:28 GMT
#1519
On March 15 2011 21:20 HolyArrow wrote:
Boxer seems to have really lopsided talents. Generally great decision-making, great mindgames, great micro, but occasionally way too aggressive (losing 4 siege tanks for nothing) and not the best macro. I think the lopsidedness of his abilities is what contributes to him always showing really long, nail-biting, scrappy games. Ah well. /sad


This is Boxer. He gets more aggressive the more he falls behind. Putting a lot of his focus on to attacking and disregards economy. He beats players by pushing them out of their comfort zone from minute one.

What you see here is basically the same what happened over time in Broodwar. Macro players learned to overcome the stress and still keep expanding, expanding, expanding.

What Boxer is banking on is that you loose your stuff and then go on tilt. You might hate on Zenio but loosing like 5 hatcheries, knowing that Boxer does not stop ever to the last second is like you said nail-biting.
Shvifb
Profile Joined February 2011
12 Posts
March 15 2011 12:28 GMT
#1520
On March 15 2011 21:17 ihasaKAROT wrote:
GG! The better player won. Im glad boxer is in Code A where he belongs imo


I was inclined to agree but I think his rightful place is code B. or warcraft 3.

Boxer just can't hang with the new generation of players.
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