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On April 24 2011 01:23 Trawler wrote: I love when nama says "focus", it totally sounds like "fuck us". LOL pay attention next time haha
He was saying focusing earlier and I thought he was saying fuck us son. lol I thought only I was hearing that.
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On April 24 2011 01:20 ptbl wrote: People criticized MC for going two proxy gates against White-ra, but people are cheering Morrow for going for an all-in baneling zergling drop...
I wasnt one of those, but are you seriously comparing a 2 proxy gate to a baneling zergling DROP?
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On April 24 2011 01:20 HuHEN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:19 Dragar wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 udgnim wrote: yeah all in, the best way for Zerg to beat Protoss nowadays Idra agrees! Sometimes to shift the balance of a matchup you need to poke holes in plays that they used to think were safe, forcing protoss to account for more things and overall weakening their builds.
I agree with this. The reason 3 gate expo is so successful is the thread of 4 gate and nexus cancel which means a zerg can't just drone blindly.
The threat of this kind of zerg all-in will make the protoss have to play less greedy (greedy meaning just massing cannons with sentries)
Then, it might be safer for zergs to actually tech to hive / infestors.Who knows but it's a step since "standard" zvp right now fails anyway.
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On April 24 2011 01:20 OnlineHero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:19 Logros wrote:Finally he's switching it up. See how much different this is from just making roaches and throwing them away against a big Protoss army?  You can't find it reasonable that Z HAVE to all-in to stand a chance against protoss. GG by Morrow!
It just means that MC was playing greedy and Morrow punished it. And it doesn't have to be an all-in, he can just use an attack like that to do damage and get ahead.
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC. Catz on a good day.
":D"
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On April 24 2011 01:22 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:20 JaQInTheBox wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 philly5man wrote: The second commentator on this stream sounds so much like the freaky Slovakian that the Americans meet in Prague in the film Hostel.
Great play from Morrow for game 3! thats mouz|mana. from poland i think (: Yes, he's polish. Our english accents are quite similiar (especially slovakia and poland) but his is pretty brutal ;d
I thought his accent isn't THAT bad since I hear worse all the time
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC. Catz on a good day.
Definitly not.
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On April 24 2011 01:22 Provocateur wrote: As expected: when MorroW does Special tectics he wins. Hope he can pull two more out of the hat!
no more special tactics left 8D, now hes just hoping mc goes for a gateway timing rush so he can defend it easily with mass roach + burrow
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC. Catz on a good day.
Haha, I don't think so ^^
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On April 24 2011 01:20 ptbl wrote: People criticized MC for going two proxy gates against White-ra, but people are cheering Morrow for going for an all-in baneling zergling drop... perception of imbalance changes it greatly.
Back when Toss couldn't even beat Zerg, the Colossus/Voidray strat made by Guineapig was praised, now if you do it people get super pissed off
I find it funny that people keep saying Zerg can only win by doing all-ins, that is exactly what Protoss was doing against Zerg for 2months after the roach buff
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Lennon wrote:Lose with a standard strategy: Win with a risky all-in strategy:
haha, spot on.
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On April 24 2011 01:20 OnlineHero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:19 Logros wrote:Finally he's switching it up. See how much different this is from just making roaches and throwing them away against a big Protoss army?  You can't find it reasonable that Z HAVE to all-in to stand a chance against protoss. GG by Morrow! You are looking at it wrong.
Maybe protoss players get away with doing what they want because zergs don't punish them for taking risks.
'Cheese' isn't just rushing for some unit. It can also be playing overly greedy and hoping your opponent doesn't realise and punish you for it.
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Corrik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:23 Trawler wrote: I love when nama says "focus", it totally sounds like "fuck us". LOL pay attention next time haha He was saying focusing earlier and I thought he was saying fuck us son. lol I thought only I was hearing that.
Haha that is hillarius ^^
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Nicely executed cheese is fun in a tournament setting, as long as it's not every game. (and i don't count that last game as cheese)
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC. Catz on a good day.
Sheth perhaps. His ZvP is pretty beastly.
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On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.
Dimaga
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Lennon wrote:Lose with a standard strategy: Win with a risky all-in strategy: he lost because he played bad in the first two games. micro macro build order tactics strategy. style has nothing to do with it. it looked like he wanted to play a style like this http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/vod/65005 but is really really bad at it, cutting back on the effectiveness of attacking head on for investments that end up not helping at all with anything
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC. Catz on a good day.
Umm... wat?
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MC plays greedy all the time. It's a wonder people are just starting to punish him for it.
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On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote: Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc. dont judge an entire race based on one persons play Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC. Catz on a good day. that's quite optimistic lol
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