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Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
April 23 2011 16:23 GMT
#2681
On April 24 2011 01:23 Trawler wrote:
I love when nama says "focus", it totally sounds like "fuck us". LOL pay attention next time haha


He was saying focusing earlier and I thought he was saying fuck us son. lol I thought only I was hearing that.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 16:24:20
April 23 2011 16:23 GMT
#2682
On April 24 2011 01:20 ptbl wrote:
People criticized MC for going two proxy gates against White-ra, but people are cheering Morrow for going for an all-in baneling zergling drop...


I wasnt one of those, but are you seriously comparing a 2 proxy gate to a baneling zergling DROP?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2683
On April 24 2011 01:20 HuHEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:19 Dragar wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 udgnim wrote:
yeah all in, the best way for Zerg to beat Protoss nowadays


Idra agrees!



Sometimes to shift the balance of a matchup you need to poke holes in plays that they used to think were safe, forcing protoss to account for more things and overall weakening their builds.


I agree with this. The reason 3 gate expo is so successful is the thread of 4 gate and nexus cancel which means a zerg can't just drone blindly.

The threat of this kind of zerg all-in will make the protoss have to play less greedy (greedy meaning just massing cannons with sentries)

Then, it might be safer for zergs to actually tech to hive / infestors.Who knows but it's a step since "standard" zvp right now fails anyway.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2684
On April 24 2011 01:20 OnlineHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:19 Logros wrote:
Finally he's switching it up. See how much different this is from just making roaches and throwing them away against a big Protoss army?


You can't find it reasonable that Z HAVE to all-in to stand a chance against protoss. GG by Morrow!


It just means that MC was playing greedy and Morrow punished it. And it doesn't have to be an all-in, he can just use an attack like that to do damage and get ahead.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2685
On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Catz on a good day.


":D"
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2686
On April 24 2011 01:22 OutlaW- wrote:
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On April 24 2011 01:20 JaQInTheBox wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 philly5man wrote:
The second commentator on this stream sounds so much like the freaky Slovakian that the Americans meet in Prague in the film Hostel.

Great play from Morrow for game 3!


thats mouz|mana. from poland i think (:

Yes, he's polish. Our english accents are quite similiar (especially slovakia and poland) but his is pretty brutal ;d


I thought his accent isn't THAT bad since I hear worse all the time
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2687
On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Catz on a good day.


Definitly not.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10088 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2688
On April 24 2011 01:22 Provocateur wrote:
As expected: when MorroW does Special tectics he wins. Hope he can pull two more out of the hat!


no more special tactics left 8D, now hes just hoping mc goes for a gateway timing rush so he can defend it easily with mass roach + burrow
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2689
On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Catz on a good day.


Haha, I don't think so ^^
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2690
On April 24 2011 01:20 ptbl wrote:
People criticized MC for going two proxy gates against White-ra, but people are cheering Morrow for going for an all-in baneling zergling drop...

perception of imbalance changes it greatly.

Back when Toss couldn't even beat Zerg, the Colossus/Voidray strat made by Guineapig was praised, now if you do it people get super pissed off

I find it funny that people keep saying Zerg can only win by doing all-ins, that is exactly what Protoss was doing against Zerg for 2months after the roach buff
PirateFX
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia252 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2691
On April 24 2011 01:23 Lennon wrote:
Lose with a standard strategy:

Show nested quote +
He sucks. What the fuck is he doing?


Win with a risky all-in strategy:

Show nested quote +
He's a genious!



haha, spot on.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#2692
On April 24 2011 01:20 OnlineHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:19 Logros wrote:
Finally he's switching it up. See how much different this is from just making roaches and throwing them away against a big Protoss army?


You can't find it reasonable that Z HAVE to all-in to stand a chance against protoss. GG by Morrow!

You are looking at it wrong.

Maybe protoss players get away with doing what they want because zergs don't punish them for taking risks.

'Cheese' isn't just rushing for some unit. It can also be playing overly greedy and hoping your opponent doesn't realise and punish you for it.
Trawler
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden382 Posts
April 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#2693
On April 24 2011 01:23 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:23 Trawler wrote:
I love when nama says "focus", it totally sounds like "fuck us". LOL pay attention next time haha


He was saying focusing earlier and I thought he was saying fuck us son. lol I thought only I was hearing that.


Haha that is hillarius ^^
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
April 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#2694
Nicely executed cheese is fun in a tournament setting, as long as it's not every game. (and i don't count that last game as cheese)
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
April 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#2695
On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Catz on a good day.


Sheth perhaps. His ZvP is pretty beastly.
<3
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#2696
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Dimaga
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#2697
On April 24 2011 01:23 Lennon wrote:
Lose with a standard strategy:

Show nested quote +
He sucks. What the fuck is he doing?


Win with a risky all-in strategy:

Show nested quote +
He's a genious!


he lost because he played bad in the first two games. micro macro build order tactics strategy. style has nothing to do with it. it looked like he wanted to play a style like this http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/vod/65005 but is really really bad at it, cutting back on the effectiveness of attacking head on for investments that end up not helping at all with anything
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
April 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#2698
On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Catz on a good day.


Umm... wat?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#2699
MC plays greedy all the time. It's a wonder people are just starting to punish him for it.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#2700
On April 24 2011 01:23 Gigelcelrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:21 nam nam wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:19 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:17 epoc wrote:
Funny how cheesing is the only way morrow even stands a chance against mc.

dont judge an entire race based on one persons play


Name me one foreign zerg that would stand a good chance against MC in a bo5. Morrow might not be on the top of his game, but most zergs would look bad against MC.


Catz on a good day.

that's quite optimistic lol
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