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On May 16 2011 02:37 DuckS wrote:
Going to have to agree with a lot in this thread - the quality of HD's casting has dropped significantly. I appreciate all the time put into these tournaments and his casting, but I feel that he is losing some of the love for SC2. He doesn't have very many games played this season, implying that he isn't too familiar with what's going on in the game. This is also shown by his massive commentating mistakes in game.. I can bring up any commentary by him and indicate more than a few flaws in logic, or just being plain wrong. It's really shined in this tournament as well, the product of his games, and the lack of organization. Misplaced banners, or sometimes not even existing, revealing the replay time - not setting busy (consistently) and getting a message while trying to commentate this seemingly professional tournament. Not using anti-spoilers for the first half of the tournament, then doing it wrong for a couple of series. (in a series of PvT, you'd see a replay thumbnail with Creep implying Zerg was in the game..)
It may be harsh critique, but don't get me wrong, I love HD. In fact, both him and Husky brought me into the game. I remember playing WC3 massively but watching their commentaries, finding myself playing less and watching more. This was during the first half of the beta, and it convinced me to buy a new computer and preorder SC2 for the beta. All I want is his production value to be back where it was in the beta - when he seemed to care more.
Yeah, it does feel he's completely lost touch. He's had a few fumbles in the past. No problem really.
But waaaay more this time, particularly in this tournament series. Maybe he has IRL issues right now.
It's pretty disappointing.
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I really can't get behind this tournament. The vods are released so far apart from each other that I have a hard time being emotionally invested in it, it just kills the hype and makes it more of a collection of games casted by HD and put on his youtube channel than a tournament I can get hyped for. I mean the first round games were released like what....4 weeks ago? and there have only been 3 rounds actually played lol.
So yea, just my feedback and something to perhaps improve upon next time. HD I appreciate all the work youre putting into this of course, just giving my opinion as a spectator. I realize you're busy with IPL and probably have RL concerns and w/e but still, perhaps do this when you're not swamped with work? Or maybe record all the casts and release them all within the span of a week or something. I dunno, just speaking as a spectator, its really hard to get behind the tournament when all the games are so far apart and not streamed or anything (liek they were with hdh)
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Ive updated my page with the latest games from this tournament. Still SPOILER FREE! zzyzx.nu/HD-WorldTournament.
If you havent seen any games of the tournament yet you can watch all the games here, up untill the semis and the third place match.(Finals will be added when they come out)
Please check it out and give me feedback(thru teamliquid messaging). Im thinking of maybe doing this for other tournaments that dont have their own sites aswell..
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Yeah HD isn't what he used to be I'm not really sure why...Probably because he hasnt played as much as before(and doesnt 1v1 as much?). but I'm enjoying the tournament nonethelss.
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I haven't been keeping up with this tournament much so not sure if there are any games worth watching for amazingness. Is it possible to get a recommended games list?
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Just started watching the first match of the semifinals... and I can already see why there is so much complaining about HD.
I mean he starts off not knowing where strelok is from (how do you not doing a little bit of background reading before casting replays...) and has no memory of the brackets in his own damn tournament.
I mean it's completely inexcusable to not do any research at all before casting games for your own tournament... so unprofessional..
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On May 22 2011 08:49 TopOgi wrote:
haters gona hate
Its not just some pointless hate he's getting though, its honest constructive criticism. The tournament is so sporadically updated that its impossible to actually care about it. The production also doesn't seem nearly as good as the HDH, which was probably the best beta competition. I like HD and do enjoy his casting, he really needs to step it up and put more effort behind this. It feels like starcraftarena all over again.
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Very badly run tournament if you ask me and I'd say sponsors and tournament holders should think hard before asking this guy to cast their stuff. If I sponsored this tournament I would be asking for my money back.
HD has been terrible basically since after release and I wouldn't recommend him to anyone anymore.
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On May 22 2011 09:04 Adsee wrote:Its not just some pointless hate he's getting though, its honest constructive criticism. The tournament is so sporadically updated that its impossible to actually care about it.
I agree with this point. I recall HD saying that the delay between casts was because players hadn't played the games yet. Whatever the reason, with disciplined and planned organisation this could have been a non-issue.
HDH was an awesome tournament to watch, perhaps because there weren't that many other tournaments happening during Beta. Nowadays we're spoilt for choice as spectators, with leagues such as GSL, NASL, IPL, MLG and tournaments such as Dreamhack and the GSL super tournament hogging the spotlight. Tournaments similar to HDWT will always seem rather lacklustre in comparison.
That being said; with some sort of fixed schedule of uploading and with casting that wasn't factually incorrect in places I feel the HDWT could have been a much better tournament. HDWT was never going to rival some of these other tournaments I mentioned, but people could have enjoyed it for what it was were it not for some of the critical shortcomings being discussed in this thread.
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He was the first person I watched, and helped me get into the game. Because of this, I feel bad. I wish he just put some more effort, or if he can't, just say it. if he's busy, no one is going to be angry... if only there was a way for someone to actually tell him this.
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On May 22 2011 16:40 Introvert wrote:
He was the first person I watched, and helped me get into the game. Because of this, I feel bad. I wish he just put some more effort, or if he can't, just say it. if he's busy, no one is going to be angry... if only there was a way for someone to actually tell him this.
this. i too was introduced to sc2 through HD (and later on Husky) so it's a shame that the tournament became so....meh. something that a lot of people (including me) can't stand is RADIO SILENCE. if there was just an announcement or something explaining it's getting delayed or something, then do that. most of us are (relatively) mature and understand there's life outside sc2, but don't just leave us hanging.
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The finals happened to be really good imo! I feel like this HD guy could be a good commentator if he applied himself fully, the finals were entertaining and his commentary wasn't bad imo, but in a few of the earlier games he did make some rather bad mistakes, and the tournament was just kind of weird and poorly produced imo. Maybe he only intended it for his loyal YT fans, but even for a fanatic Sc2 esports viewer I forgot this tournament was on on many occasions.
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I enjoyed this tournament a lot. + Show Spoiler +Strelok has been playing amazingly of late, he's dominating NASL and now taking this tournament out against some of the biggest names in the scene.
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On May 22 2011 14:22 adeezy wrote:This tournament was badass! best finals + Show Spoiler +
Man you really got me, I read your spoiler before watching! Damn curiosity!
+ Show Spoiler +Gratz strelok, didn´t think you win after the first games and my bad move to read the spoiler above :D
Must say the same that many before, came to sc2 in beta with HD and Husky and well that wasn´t as good as in the beta. But I still appreciate the work HD have put into this, the dualcasts with painuser for example were really good.
And the games themselfes were fantastic.
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i had no idea the tourney had even started. none of it has been broadcasted live and theres been no hype by the organizers, not even to bump this thread. i didnt notice the games on youtube because i dont sub to many casters because it spams my front page with games between people i dont care about ; /
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Don't really see what the fuzz about his casting.. he doesn't seem particularly better or worse then before. He's still 10 times as knowledgeable as Husky right now but the latter doesn't get 10% of the crap HD gets for 'not being on the loop'. This is disgusting.
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On March 10 2011 16:15 TheBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 15:25 tianGO wrote:
"World Tournament" without any korean player? Select is korean. I'm hoping to see some Swedes in there. When it comes to Starcraft I pretend to be swedish.
Whoah whoah whoah wait...
I've always argued SelecT is Korean and people always said he's considered a "foreigner" because of "where he plays". Yet suddenly he's used as the "Korean" when it's pointed out there is no Korean representation in this tournament? This is ridiculous lol. Let's set this straight once and for all then. SelecT is Korean and thus does not count as being a "top foreign Terran" lol.
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