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On March 07 2011 19:47 Encrypto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 19:46 Vorenius wrote:On March 07 2011 19:42 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:41 zivac wrote:On March 07 2011 19:40 Ribbon wrote: The loss of the Stim upgrade was critical. Rain is miles behind. it was shield upgrade Nope, it was stim. You could see it on the production tab. I bet you got that from Kelly?  It really was combat shields. And Conc was queued up behind it and neither was cancelled before the tech lab died. For what reason would a terran get shields before stim? As soon as he got the tech lab back, he got stim. So he changed his mind?
Probably. It was definitely shields being upgraded in that one techlab that got sniped by the DT.
Terminus becoming a TvP graveyard too. Havent seen a T win there yet
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Depending on what end of it you're on, quick DTs is the most fun/soul-crushing opening protoss has, imo.
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On March 07 2011 19:47 Azarkon wrote: DTs come too late to fast expand behind. If they don't do damage against a fast expanding Terran you're significantly behind.
DT Expand is risky but the payoff can be really good. I mix it in my play occasionally but i find robo builds just more solid if its a Bo1. Tho i think DT Expand is great for Best of series.
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Since when did DT contain into expo become cheese?
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On March 07 2011 19:48 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 19:47 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:46 Vorenius wrote:On March 07 2011 19:42 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:41 zivac wrote:On March 07 2011 19:40 Ribbon wrote: The loss of the Stim upgrade was critical. Rain is miles behind. it was shield upgrade Nope, it was stim. You could see it on the production tab. I bet you got that from Kelly?  It really was combat shields. And Conc was queued up behind it and neither was cancelled before the tech lab died. For what reason would a terran get shields before stim? As soon as he got the tech lab back, he got stim. So he changed his mind? Watch the vod when its up, it was definitely combat shield+conc shell on the tech lab that got killed.
Huh. I stand corrected.
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On March 07 2011 19:48 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 19:47 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:46 Vorenius wrote:On March 07 2011 19:42 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:41 zivac wrote:On March 07 2011 19:40 Ribbon wrote: The loss of the Stim upgrade was critical. Rain is miles behind. it was shield upgrade Nope, it was stim. You could see it on the production tab. I bet you got that from Kelly?  It really was combat shields. And Conc was queued up behind it and neither was cancelled before the tech lab died. For what reason would a terran get shields before stim? As soon as he got the tech lab back, he got stim. So he changed his mind? Watch the vod when its up, it was definitely combat shield+conc shell on the tech lab that got killed.
It was shields. Shields is a more useful upgrade when playing defensively, stim is mostly obtained first for special attack timings.
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On March 07 2011 19:47 Encrypto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 19:46 Vorenius wrote:On March 07 2011 19:42 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:41 zivac wrote:On March 07 2011 19:40 Ribbon wrote: The loss of the Stim upgrade was critical. Rain is miles behind. it was shield upgrade Nope, it was stim. You could see it on the production tab. I bet you got that from Kelly?  It really was combat shields. And Conc was queued up behind it and neither was cancelled before the tech lab died. For what reason would a terran get shields before stim? As soon as he got the tech lab back, he got stim. So he changed his mind?
As for the stim vs shields argument, Shields makes a lot more sense to get in that situations as then it would take 2 DT swipes to kill a marine instead of 1.
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On March 07 2011 19:47 bennyaus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 19:47 Azarkon wrote: DTs come too late to fast expand behind. If they don't do damage against a fast expanding Terran you're significantly behind. Unless the T scouts your Dark Shrine, it will always do damage vs an FE Terran that will not have a Raven out. In fact, it is a build order victory if he doesn't have turrets up in time, against an FE terran...
A FE Terran can easily get a missile turret if he suspects DTs, which he will if he doesn't see an expo from you in response to his expo. Missile turrets also hold one-base void ray all-in so it's a natural BO transition.
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On March 07 2011 19:47 Encrypto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 19:46 Vorenius wrote:On March 07 2011 19:42 Encrypto wrote:On March 07 2011 19:41 zivac wrote:On March 07 2011 19:40 Ribbon wrote: The loss of the Stim upgrade was critical. Rain is miles behind. it was shield upgrade Nope, it was stim. You could see it on the production tab. I bet you got that from Kelly?  It really was combat shields. And Conc was queued up behind it and neither was cancelled before the tech lab died. For what reason would a terran get shields before stim? As soon as he got the tech lab back, he got stim. So he changed his mind? How would I know his reasoning behind doing anything? :s
That doesn't change the fact that he was getting combat shields and had conc shells queued though. And I don't know if he changed his mind, if it was a missclick inthe first place since I'm not that good at mind reading. But non of that changes the fact that he was getting Combat Shields when the tech lab died.
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did he seriously just kill 4 scvs and 2 marines with his zealot+stalker poke :0!!!
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Sangho putting on the rape face.
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..lot of damage coming from just a stalker and a zealot..
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On March 07 2011 19:47 ftd.rain wrote: fast DT into expand is cheese, period.
It is no more cheese than a Banshee opening in TvT, imo. Just like most openings it has hard counters, and it hard counters other openings. You can usually get the expansion Nexus about the same time that you would in a 3gate expand, the only real issue is dealing with an early 2-3rax bio push in TvP, or a PDD 1 base push.
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On March 07 2011 19:46 DystopiaX wrote: God this new guy has so many name puns, he's awesome but none of them are funny.
There have to be better supernova puns. If the guy gets a ton of bio...
'Supernova....has reached critical mass'
Oh the humanity
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lol feels like sc1... goon pressure until the tank gets out! oh nostalgia.
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I would've liked 1 gas FE more from SangHo, he has like 500 gas saved up now O.o.
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Sangho's early harass with 1 probe, 1 zealot, and 1 stalker does more damage than expected. Kills off a couple of marines and scv's, plus scouts the expansion cc
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New guy seems like a very nice Tasteless clone...kinda freaky similar at times lol
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