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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
March 02 2011 12:59 GMT
#1421
On March 02 2011 21:58 phisku wrote:
Will idra finaly stop complaining against the non presence of zerg in tournament?


Probably not, as he said that you have to watch the games and not the results or it's meaningless. And in that game, Fenix was throwing away units left and right.
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
March 02 2011 12:59 GMT
#1422
On March 02 2011 21:56 Zorgaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:54 Fa1nT wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:53 Zorgaz wrote:
Lol it has been proven, Mass Mutas crushes terran


It's actually a super terrible strategy that should not be working.


Not when the terran has 13 tanks and few marines .

The thing is even if the terran then starts massing only marines and thors, the zerg can just pick off the tanks and then get alot of lings/blings ^^.

Atleast I'm having a problem with it, and seems like the pros here at IEM are too


Fenix had could've had enough marines to hold off the mutas if he didn't commit so many to failed drops. This strategy works well against these very aggressive Terrans, but like day9 said more passive ones would probably deal with it a lot better.
What this
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 13:00:18
March 02 2011 12:59 GMT
#1423
On March 02 2011 21:58 phisku wrote:
Will idra finaly stop complaining against the non presence of zerg in tournament?


Zerg are only dominating because there's 3 who train in Korea playing vs people who play one Western servers, they're just better players than the other guys here (and apparently Squirtle has dubious PvZ).
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 02 2011 12:59 GMT
#1424
On March 02 2011 21:59 branflakes14 wrote:
Squirtle > MVP
Moonglade > Squirtle
Moonglade > MVP!


I can't see any problem with this logic. >.>
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
March 02 2011 12:59 GMT
#1425
On March 02 2011 21:57 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:54 Jaxx wrote:
Huh, where can I find all results? Both ESL page and OP of this thread are unupdated, maybe some mod could edit in the results (GTR?).


The ESL page is 100% upto date :/

Mass Muta's are so good, Marines can't catch them and Thors get raped by magic boxing


Marines with Thor support are AWESOME against mass mutas. Just not when you have 3000/3000 worth of mutas against 1500 minerals worth of marines and a Thor :p
I
Armsved
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark642 Posts
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1426
On March 02 2011 21:58 greenlander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:57 ftd.rain wrote:
wow, fenix is a master at throwing units away, thats seriously silver league unit management, 10 medivacs dying while standing alone in the middle of nothing

indeed. lost so many units for nothing.

expanded to the right base while not destroying the rocks leading towards it...


Also fenix decided to do some weird marine tank push with 3 tank and a bunch of marines before taking 3rd. So fenix ended up getting an insanely late 3rd compared to what he could had secured 2-3min earlier..
YOOO
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 13:01:19
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1427
On March 02 2011 21:58 kvn4444 wrote:
well, if it ain't broke don't fix it lol. I liked the strat, just contain the terran until he's starved to the point where he has to make a last ditch effort to kill off the zerg after losing so many units to muta.


And when terran pushes out with his 200/200 thor/marine/tank army with 3/3 ups? Your muta are now useless, your banes die to tanks before hitting marines (if terran can micro at all).

Mass muta does not work against an EQUALLY skilled terran. You will not see it often in higher levels of GSL. Muta/bane into ultra or broods is a more viable strat.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 13:00:39
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1428
On March 02 2011 21:59 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:51 Weemoed wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:49 alepov wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:47 NHY wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:43 Vorenius wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:30 TBO wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:28 Vorenius wrote:
They should probably chose some more straight up questions for the koreans. I feel bad for the translator when it takes TLO 5 minutes to ask the question...


The Translator is a korean living in Germany for many years speaking perfect german & english - so he can handle it - he probably condenses the questions though^^.

I speak english pretty good, but if I had to listen to an almost minute long sentence, you can be sure I'm not gonna be able to translate it even close to 100% accurate. So if the translator can condense the question the interviewer might as well just formulate the question shorter in the first palce


I can barely understand the translator's Korean, let alone his English. They should let moon do interviews in English by himself. For Squirtle and Ace you have to use translator since they don't speak English well.

have you ever heard moon's english? =D it's hilarious but not really understandable
It's almost cute, and quite funny


Better than hearing totally random stuff from the translator.
It wasn't criticism from my side, I do agree with you

It always sound more honest, just like with oGsMC.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
MichaelZon
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland21 Posts
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1429
Moonglade has gained a fan. Awesome playing.
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1430
fenix is just reaaaaaaaaaally bad compared to the rest of these players.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1431
Fenix looks like he is almost starting to cry...
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
siewkeat
Profile Joined October 2010
282 Posts
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1432
On March 02 2011 21:54 Jaxx wrote:
Huh, where can I find all results? Both ESL page and OP of this thread are unupdated, maybe some mod could edit in the results (GTR?).


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1119_IEM_World_Championship/games
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#1433
Wow, the American reps are doing terrible
www.memoryexpress.com
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
March 02 2011 13:01 GMT
#1434
Pretty brilliant control from Moonglade, hardly ever losing a magic box. Also interesting to see a low drone, high ling-muta mid game from a zerg. If moonglade hadn't had so many zerglings fenix would've been able to push in at almost any point.
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
March 02 2011 13:01 GMT
#1435
On March 02 2011 21:56 Zorgaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:54 Fa1nT wrote:
On March 02 2011 21:53 Zorgaz wrote:
Lol it has been proven, Mass Mutas crushes terran


It's actually a super terrible strategy that should not be working.


Not when the terran has 13 tanks and few marines .

The thing is even if the terran then starts massing only marines and thors, the zerg can just pick off the tanks and then get alot of lings/blings ^^.

Atleast I'm having a problem with it, and seems like the pros here at IEM are too


The thing is... If Terran chose to go with marine/thor/medivac only, he'd be rolled over first time Z went mass bling... So he'll need the tanks... Which will do nothing against mutas... Oh the joys of TvZ
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
March 02 2011 13:01 GMT
#1436
Hunter Seeker Missile coulda been mighty useful there. Too bad terrans don't think outside of the box!
Ivanero
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain140 Posts
March 02 2011 13:01 GMT
#1437
On March 02 2011 21:58 Jetaap wrote:
Anyway , amazing muta control by Moonglade, Fenix completly outclassed in this game.


Not hard to control just 1 type of units while the other has to move 4 and slower and ground...
=)
PraetorianX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden780 Posts
March 02 2011 13:01 GMT
#1438
Wow, I can't believe myself.

Day9 and friggin' TLO is casting a massive tournament and I discover it NOW, having missed the majority of the games CRAP!

I was browsing the non-featured streams and there were a couple with 8k viewers. I was like "hmm, wat is dis.... ZOMG ITS DAY9 AND TLO"

Now I just feel sad. I assume there are VOD:s if you pay 6,5€?
The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
March 02 2011 13:02 GMT
#1439
On March 02 2011 22:00 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:58 kvn4444 wrote:
well, if it ain't broke don't fix it lol. I liked the strat, just contain the terran until he's starved to the point where he has to make a last ditch effort to kill off the zerg after losing so many units to muta.


And when terran pushes out with his 200/200 thor/marine/tank army with 3/3 ups? Your muta are now useless, your banes die to tanks before hitting marines (if terran can micro at all).

Mass muta does not work against an EQUALLY skilled terran. You will not see it often in higher levels of GSL. Muta/bane into ultra or broods is a more viable strat.


well, that's why the strat is so good against Fenix...that isn't his style at all. He can't help himself from splitting up his army all over the place.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2607 Posts
March 02 2011 13:02 GMT
#1440
On March 02 2011 21:40 MrPello wrote:
I'm with WhiteDog. The girls crap is tacky and hinders the growth of ESPORTS.


How would this hinder the growth of eSports? Noone will stop playing the game because of this, but rather some nerdlings, who never see the light will buy the sponsors gear in hope to be once the gamer beside those girls. So it will even have a positive effect on this
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
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