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On March 02 2011 21:58 phisku wrote: Will idra finaly stop complaining against the non presence of zerg in tournament?
Probably not, as he said that you have to watch the games and not the results or it's meaningless. And in that game, Fenix was throwing away units left and right.
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On March 02 2011 21:56 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 21:54 Fa1nT wrote:On March 02 2011 21:53 Zorgaz wrote:Lol it has been proven, Mass Mutas crushes terran  It's actually a super terrible strategy that should not be working. Not when the terran has 13 tanks and few marines  . The thing is even if the terran then starts massing only marines and thors, the zerg can just pick off the tanks and then get alot of lings/blings ^^. Atleast I'm having a problem with it, and seems like the pros here at IEM are too
Fenix had could've had enough marines to hold off the mutas if he didn't commit so many to failed drops. This strategy works well against these very aggressive Terrans, but like day9 said more passive ones would probably deal with it a lot better.
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On March 02 2011 21:58 phisku wrote: Will idra finaly stop complaining against the non presence of zerg in tournament?
Zerg are only dominating because there's 3 who train in Korea playing vs people who play one Western servers, they're just better players than the other guys here (and apparently Squirtle has dubious PvZ).
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On March 02 2011 21:59 branflakes14 wrote: Squirtle > MVP Moonglade > Squirtle Moonglade > MVP!
I can't see any problem with this logic. >.>
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On March 02 2011 21:57 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 21:54 Jaxx wrote: Huh, where can I find all results? Both ESL page and OP of this thread are unupdated, maybe some mod could edit in the results (GTR?). The ESL page is 100% upto date :/ Mass Muta's are so good, Marines can't catch them and Thors get raped by magic boxing
Marines with Thor support are AWESOME against mass mutas. Just not when you have 3000/3000 worth of mutas against 1500 minerals worth of marines and a Thor :p
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On March 02 2011 21:58 greenlander wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 21:57 ftd.rain wrote: wow, fenix is a master at throwing units away, thats seriously silver league unit management, 10 medivacs dying while standing alone in the middle of nothing indeed. lost so many units for nothing. expanded to the right base while not destroying the rocks leading towards it...
Also fenix decided to do some weird marine tank push with 3 tank and a bunch of marines before taking 3rd. So fenix ended up getting an insanely late 3rd compared to what he could had secured 2-3min earlier..
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On March 02 2011 21:58 kvn4444 wrote: well, if it ain't broke don't fix it lol. I liked the strat, just contain the terran until he's starved to the point where he has to make a last ditch effort to kill off the zerg after losing so many units to muta.
And when terran pushes out with his 200/200 thor/marine/tank army with 3/3 ups? Your muta are now useless, your banes die to tanks before hitting marines (if terran can micro at all).
Mass muta does not work against an EQUALLY skilled terran. You will not see it often in higher levels of GSL. Muta/bane into ultra or broods is a more viable strat.
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On March 02 2011 21:59 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 21:51 Weemoed wrote:On March 02 2011 21:49 alepov wrote:On March 02 2011 21:47 NHY wrote:On March 02 2011 21:43 Vorenius wrote:On March 02 2011 21:30 TBO wrote:On March 02 2011 21:28 Vorenius wrote: They should probably chose some more straight up questions for the koreans. I feel bad for the translator when it takes TLO 5 minutes to ask the question... The Translator is a korean living in Germany for many years speaking perfect german & english - so he can handle it - he probably condenses the questions though^^. I speak english pretty good, but if I had to listen to an almost minute long sentence, you can be sure I'm not gonna be able to translate it even close to 100% accurate. So if the translator can condense the question the interviewer might as well just formulate the question shorter in the first palce  I can barely understand the translator's Korean, let alone his English. They should let moon do interviews in English by himself. For Squirtle and Ace you have to use translator since they don't speak English well. have you ever heard moon's english? =D it's hilarious but not really understandable It's almost cute, and quite funny  Better than hearing totally random stuff from the translator. It wasn't criticism from my side, I do agree with you
It always sound more honest, just like with oGsMC.
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Moonglade has gained a fan. Awesome playing.
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fenix is just reaaaaaaaaaally bad compared to the rest of these players.
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Fenix looks like he is almost starting to cry...
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On March 02 2011 21:54 Jaxx wrote: Huh, where can I find all results? Both ESL page and OP of this thread are unupdated, maybe some mod could edit in the results (GTR?).
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Wow, the American reps are doing terrible
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Pretty brilliant control from Moonglade, hardly ever losing a magic box. Also interesting to see a low drone, high ling-muta mid game from a zerg. If moonglade hadn't had so many zerglings fenix would've been able to push in at almost any point.
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On March 02 2011 21:56 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 21:54 Fa1nT wrote:On March 02 2011 21:53 Zorgaz wrote:Lol it has been proven, Mass Mutas crushes terran  It's actually a super terrible strategy that should not be working. Not when the terran has 13 tanks and few marines  . The thing is even if the terran then starts massing only marines and thors, the zerg can just pick off the tanks and then get alot of lings/blings ^^. Atleast I'm having a problem with it, and seems like the pros here at IEM are too
The thing is... If Terran chose to go with marine/thor/medivac only, he'd be rolled over first time Z went mass bling... So he'll need the tanks... Which will do nothing against mutas... Oh the joys of TvZ
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Hunter Seeker Missile coulda been mighty useful there. Too bad terrans don't think outside of the box!
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On March 02 2011 21:58 Jetaap wrote: Anyway , amazing muta control by Moonglade, Fenix completly outclassed in this game.
Not hard to control just 1 type of units while the other has to move 4 and slower and ground...
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Wow, I can't believe myself.
Day9 and friggin' TLO is casting a massive tournament and I discover it NOW, having missed the majority of the games CRAP!
I was browsing the non-featured streams and there were a couple with 8k viewers. I was like "hmm, wat is dis.... ZOMG ITS DAY9 AND TLO"
Now I just feel sad. I assume there are VOD:s if you pay 6,5€?
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On March 02 2011 22:00 Fa1nT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 21:58 kvn4444 wrote: well, if it ain't broke don't fix it lol. I liked the strat, just contain the terran until he's starved to the point where he has to make a last ditch effort to kill off the zerg after losing so many units to muta. And when terran pushes out with his 200/200 thor/marine/tank army with 3/3 ups? Your muta are now useless, your banes die to tanks before hitting marines (if terran can micro at all). Mass muta does not work against an EQUALLY skilled terran. You will not see it often in higher levels of GSL. Muta/bane into ultra or broods is a more viable strat.
well, that's why the strat is so good against Fenix...that isn't his style at all. He can't help himself from splitting up his army all over the place.
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On March 02 2011 21:40 MrPello wrote: I'm with WhiteDog. The girls crap is tacky and hinders the growth of ESPORTS.
How would this hinder the growth of eSports? Noone will stop playing the game because of this, but rather some nerdlings, who never see the light will buy the sponsors gear in hope to be once the gamer beside those girls. So it will even have a positive effect on this
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