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It's ok to be excited that your favorite player won. Please keep it manner!
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
February 12 2011 21:36 GMT
#5381
Very nice ZvZ between Morrow and Ret tbh

Watching this I would love to see Jaedong playing ZvZ in SC2.^^



Howl67
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5382
On February 13 2011 06:35 NexUmbra wrote:
Morrow =/= Jaedong


you gotta be kidding
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5383
Feels like Morrow has a micro advantage based on the first 2 games. It might not be a big enough edge to get him the series win, but I'm pretty sure it is there.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5384
On February 13 2011 06:33 Kennigit wrote:
ZvZ is so stressful -___-. Every time Zerglings poke at each other i flex all my muscles and go "EEEEEEEE LOOK OUT!!!" like a little girl.

ZvZ is by far the most stressful matchup to play. You have to constantly control your units which and small mistakes (with banelings involved) can cost you the whole game. Its a damn interesting match up even though they dont usually last that long
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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5385
On February 13 2011 06:34 Fyzar wrote:
ZvZ seems freaking intense ;> Is this even fun to play xD? If you make one mistake all your forces are dead ^^.

I believe the consensus is that if you aren't Nestea ZvZ is ridiculously hard to play
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 21:37:43
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5386
One base muta? omg.... GLHFtv....
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5387
On February 13 2011 06:36 JWD wrote:
I have no idea what happened in that game. Ret had more drones + offed so many lings with his earlier banes. is the Roach switch really so expensive that he could get run over by ling/bling so easily despite his early lead?


Oh ya, if you make the change and your opponent is still going the mass ling off of two base with a few banlings mixed it.. Odds are you'll put yourself behind quite a bit.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5388
Which one is Maven?
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5389
On February 13 2011 06:36 JWD wrote:
I have no idea what happened in that game. Ret had more drones + offed so many lings with his earlier banes. is the Roach switch really so expensive that he could get run over by ling/bling so easily despite his early lead?

Ret didn't kill many Lings with his Banes, that was his prob.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 21:37:46
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5390
On February 13 2011 06:34 Fyzar wrote:
ZvZ seems freaking intense ;> Is this even fun to play xD? If you make one mistake all your forces are dead ^^.


I find it extremely stressful.

I don't know how morrow won game 2. I thought ret should've had it when morrow stayed on only spawning pool. I think Ret made too few banelings.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5391
TL superhero or neighbor powerhouse, i dont know who to cheer for T_T
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cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5392
On February 13 2011 06:36 ITSmAnIaC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 06:35 Weavel wrote:
Nice job morrow! Really good finals so far.

Are you kidding...
ZvZ and good hahah.....


It's a very good match up if you understand it.
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5393
On February 13 2011 06:35 FrostShadow wrote:
zvz is like kickboxing on a tightrope

awesome analogy
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5394
On February 13 2011 06:36 JWD wrote:
I have no idea what happened in that game. Ret had more drones + offed so many lings with his earlier banes. is the Roach switch really so expensive that he could get run over by ling/bling so easily despite his early lead?


Morrow had a better concave in a few battles + ret switched to roaches. That is like 14 lings; the advantage grew as the game went on.
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Alaron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States225 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5395
On February 13 2011 06:36 JWD wrote:
I have no idea what happened in that game. Ret had more drones + offed so many lings with his earlier banes. is the Roach switch really so expensive that he could get run over by ling/bling so easily despite his early lead?


You need alot of roaches out to deal with mass speedling. Otherwise they aren't cost efficient.
CrispyTender
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5396
On February 13 2011 06:36 JWD wrote:
I have no idea what happened in that game. Ret had more drones + offed so many lings with his earlier banes. is the Roach switch really so expensive that he could get run over by ling/bling so easily despite his early lead?


ret was ahead but morrow's micro won the game
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5397
dont know why people whined about it being a zvz, on of the most intense matches ive seen in quite a while, and there's nothing "random" about it, just categorized as such by people with no understanding of it.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#5398
On February 13 2011 06:35 Pudge_172 wrote:
Ret had the lead and lost it with a huge ling v ling battle outside Morrow's nat


yep. no real reason to fight. cancel the few morphing banelings, retreat to the one incoming baneling ,morph there and he wins with superior ling numbers and banes vs no banes.


but zvz is so fast and crazy. really hard to always make the perfect decision
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#5399
On February 13 2011 06:36 JWD wrote:
I have no idea what happened in that game. Ret had more drones + offed so many lings with his earlier banes. is the Roach switch really so expensive that he could get run over by ling/bling so easily despite his early lead?

I think the fight where it was supposed to be 40 lings (morrow) vs 45 lings (ret) was not as it seemed to be. morrow had a lot more lings, i believe ret ones where either still on their move or elsewhere. after he lost that battle, morrow was kind of leading anyway.
dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
February 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#5400
"HAAALLOOOOOO, BANELING!!!!"
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