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Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
March 19 2011 18:49 GMT
#521
looks like we might get a tsl3 preview in idra vs cruncher... if cruncher wins against simonlegosu
Swixi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States73 Posts
March 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#522
On March 20 2011 03:45 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:43 Swixi wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:40 Tyree wrote:
Gentso wrote:
I never see minigun winning games against good players without doing some kind of unexpected early aggression build like blink stalker... very anti-climatic.


That was a macro game, so i hope you watched it. Ling+Baneling dosent work against a Toss who gets Storm, you get annihilated

So what would've worked there?


What works most of the time, Roaches with Corruptors would have stood a chance, a far bigger chance than what he did.

Ling+Banes is not going to work against Storm, they all blew up in 0.9 seconds, barely anytime to react for Idra.

I don't think you actually watch PvZ. Roach/corrupter gets wrecked constantly, and Idra tries it all the time as well. The outcome would have been no different.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
March 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#523
On March 20 2011 03:48 imbs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:37 Tyree wrote:
Outplayed, Minigun so much better there

lol. sry but idra is so much better than minigun he should probably be beating him whilst hes asleep, so i really doubt thats the case


These games prove otherwise, well done Mini, watching your stream and you rolled him
★ Top Gun ★
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#524
Sad that Idra lost that 3rd game, but I'm pretty sure if he had just retreated those lings/blings until the FF fell during the first push by Minigun or researched drop he would of won it, or atleast had a much better chance.

Or if only Miniguns push came a minute later Idra would of had broods out. :-(
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#525
On March 20 2011 03:43 Doraemon.doraemon wrote:
oh boy... i fully expect idra getting knocked out of TSL by cruncher in the first round

Oh wow, it's him versus Cruncher right now in the loser's bracket. Interesting stuff.
Ramennoodlesoup
Profile Joined November 2010
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 18:55:52
March 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#526
Mini totally faked Idra out. First win he cancels his expo and four gates. Second win he gets a couple of DTs. Idra gets detection but Mini goes for storm while scouting with fake phoenix the entire game.

Kind of funny because mini played idra on the ladder the other day and idra was rolling him. Methinks idra won't underestimate him should they meet again.
Hootie hoo!
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
March 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#527
On March 20 2011 03:45 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:43 Swixi wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:40 Tyree wrote:
Gentso wrote:
I never see minigun winning games against good players without doing some kind of unexpected early aggression build like blink stalker... very anti-climatic.


That was a macro game, so i hope you watched it. Ling+Baneling dosent work against a Toss who gets Storm, you get annihilated

So what would've worked there?


What works most of the time, Roaches with Corruptors would have stood a chance, a far bigger chance than what he did.

Ling+Banes is not going to work against Storm, they all blew up in 0.9 seconds, barely anytime to react for Idra.

lings n banes dominated minigun on ladder when idra played him, so i guess he was just hoping that itd work again.
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
March 19 2011 18:51 GMT
#528
On March 20 2011 03:46 QuakerOats wrote:
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On March 20 2011 03:42 rdj107 wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:38 taLbuk wrote:
getting pretty tired of watching pvz, and im a P player, same thing every game and no matter what zerg try nothing seems to work


Dunno what games you were watching, but idra just kinda threw those away; there was really no reason not to get drop tech, especially after the first round of forcefields. Dunno if idra forgot or just didn't care.


Yeah especially in the first big fight, Mini FF'd his units into a ball and Idra just ran his lings and banelings around in circles until they all died. At least retreat them at that point :/

yeah what is that..i see it all the time, why not pull back??
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 19 2011 18:51 GMT
#529
On March 20 2011 03:48 imbs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:37 Tyree wrote:
Outplayed, Minigun so much better there

lol. sry but idra is so much better than minigun he should probably be beating him whilst hes asleep, so i really doubt thats the case


Idra's good but at this point he's around the same skill level as a lot of people. He himself has said he stopped practicing seriously till changes are made since "the game is a joke". So while his ceiling might be higher than a lot of these players, currently he's nowhere near that ceiling and beatable quite regularly.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Tranqje
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium89 Posts
March 19 2011 18:52 GMT
#530
On March 20 2011 03:50 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:48 imbs wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:37 Tyree wrote:
Outplayed, Minigun so much better there

lol. sry but idra is so much better than minigun he should probably be beating him whilst hes asleep, so i really doubt thats the case


These games prove otherwise, well done Mini, watching your stream and you rolled him


All these laddergames where minigun got rolled prove otherwise again, it's like a neverending circle
If you watch jaws backwards it's about a shark throwing up so many people they have to open up a beach
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
March 19 2011 18:52 GMT
#531
On March 20 2011 03:51 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:48 imbs wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:37 Tyree wrote:
Outplayed, Minigun so much better there

lol. sry but idra is so much better than minigun he should probably be beating him whilst hes asleep, so i really doubt thats the case


Idra's good but at this point he's around the same skill level as a lot of people. He himself has said he stopped practicing seriously till changes are made since "the game is a joke". So while his ceiling might be higher than a lot of these players, currently he's nowhere near that ceiling and beatable quite regularly.

beatable i agree, but minigun is not a good player relative to other good foreigners
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
March 19 2011 18:53 GMT
#532
On March 20 2011 03:52 Tranqje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:50 Tyree wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:48 imbs wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:37 Tyree wrote:
Outplayed, Minigun so much better there

lol. sry but idra is so much better than minigun he should probably be beating him whilst hes asleep, so i really doubt thats the case


These games prove otherwise, well done Mini, watching your stream and you rolled him


All these laddergames where minigun got rolled prove otherwise again, it's like a neverending circle


yeah except ladder games are worthless compared to an actual tournament result, which is all that matters anyway. Idra might have beaten h im 100 times in ladder, but he lost when it counted most.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
March 19 2011 18:54 GMT
#533
IdrA made a huge mistake in the third game early game, losing a ton of lings for free. He also lost a ton of units trying to fight the forcefield donut.
I think if he hadn't made those mistakes, he might have taken that game.

IdrA might end up playing Cruncher in the LB next round - TSL3 preview, anyone? another ZvP, that will be pretty tricky.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
March 19 2011 18:54 GMT
#534
On March 20 2011 03:52 Tranqje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:50 Tyree wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:48 imbs wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:37 Tyree wrote:
Outplayed, Minigun so much better there

lol. sry but idra is so much better than minigun he should probably be beating him whilst hes asleep, so i really doubt thats the case


These games prove otherwise, well done Mini, watching your stream and you rolled him


All these laddergames where minigun got rolled prove otherwise again, it's like a neverending circle


Perhaps so but laddergames is where you experiment and try different things. Tournaments is what matters the most, that is where you bring your best play and best strats.
★ Top Gun ★
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
March 19 2011 18:55 GMT
#535
On March 20 2011 03:51 zasda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:46 QuakerOats wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:42 rdj107 wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:38 taLbuk wrote:
getting pretty tired of watching pvz, and im a P player, same thing every game and no matter what zerg try nothing seems to work


Dunno what games you were watching, but idra just kinda threw those away; there was really no reason not to get drop tech, especially after the first round of forcefields. Dunno if idra forgot or just didn't care.


Yeah especially in the first big fight, Mini FF'd his units into a ball and Idra just ran his lings and banelings around in circles until they all died. At least retreat them at that point :/

yeah what is that..i see it all the time, why not pull back??


Guess he was trying to wear out minigun's ff's, but ran out of larva first and ended up with the protoss ball in his base. Still really just lackluster performance by idra, there was no reason for him to lose that.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 19 2011 18:55 GMT
#536
Are you guys watching this StrifeCro vs. OptikZero game? Lol...
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
March 19 2011 18:56 GMT
#537
mini just played a very good g2-g3.

don't see how that isnt obvious
young ho
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
March 19 2011 18:56 GMT
#538
I try new shit on ladder, the times he rolled me with that strat, I was trying air options vs ling/bane, which didn't really work well.

People tryhard on ladder? :S
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
March 19 2011 18:56 GMT
#539
On March 20 2011 03:54 Thrax wrote:
IdrA made a huge mistake in the third game early game, losing a ton of lings for free. He also lost a ton of units trying to fight the forcefield donut.
I think if he hadn't made those mistakes, he might have taken that game.

IdrA might end up playing Cruncher in the LB next round - TSL3 preview, anyone? another ZvP, that will be pretty tricky.

If protoss has the will, you WILL lose your lings if sentries have enough energy
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
March 19 2011 18:58 GMT
#540
i love you mini

ROOT <3
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