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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:13 .Aar wrote: Thorzaine did no harass whatsoever ]: Clearly outplayed. Did TZ even research Siege Mode? Both siege tanks and thors are too slow to get a large enough numbers of. Thorzain probably thought adelscott would go mass immortal to counter mech and so wanted to insta-kill all immortals. but that was a wrong read on his part. That said, hellions aren't durable and capable enough to defend siege tanks like vultures + spider mines were in brood war. Still, we've seen a lot of terran mech play lately (from goody, jinro, beastyqt, thorzain, ...). I still think it's inferior to MMM with strong multitasking in drops and kiting. But a terran perspective would be refreshing :o. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:15 Greekarmy wrote: You can certainly win a late-game with mech against Toss as Jinro showed! The problem is reaching late-game making only mech units is very vulnerable. Harassment is a requirement if you're going mech. Blue Flame hellions out of 1 reactored factory w/ dropships or without are extremely effective. Even if he didn't harass with them, hellions eat up that many zealots if they are positioned properly. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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Hirnfrost
Germany938 Posts
that is hilarious^^ i love that guy | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:17 CrystaX wrote: Hey guys, first time following the tl open cup, will we get somewhere later on the replays?? yes, they'll be in the news post soon after the tourney's over | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38156 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:17 CrystaX wrote: Hey guys, first time following the tl open cup, will we get somewhere later on the replays?? TL will post them up sometime after the final is finished ^^ | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:17 CrystaX wrote: Hey guys, first time following the tl open cup, will we get somewhere later on the replays?? Keep checking the Featured News and this thread. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:15 Azarkon wrote: MC went carriers and Jinro hit a timing. Despite what people think about MC, that was a major mess-up. Jinro used more tanks, you CAN go mech against protoss, thorzain failed by making ONLY thors, tanks are a necessity. In that series, jinro also showed hoy 250mm cannons counter immortals while thors+tanks rape stalkers and zealots, more if you add blueflame hellions. That's the correct way to do it. Raven/thor cannot beat that, particularly when not harassing and pressuring early game, and not even scouting properly. | ||
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skycaptain
United States101 Posts
Adelscott is my new hero. | ||
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CrystaX
Germany32 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:19 Orome wrote: yes, they'll be in the news post soon after the tourney's over Thanx alot man  | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:18 Roggay wrote: Adel is always chatting too much in game. He would have been banned by KeSPA so many times. Yes but if it was a rule that your not allowed to talk he wouldn't talk just like other pro's in BW who chatted in like all star games I think? | ||
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RageBot
Israel1530 Posts
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:15 mordk wrote: Ask jinro about this, I think his games against MC have a very different opinion. You have to look at the actual games. Game 1: MC tries to bust the fast expand but fails. Then takes his own. Jinro is way ahead. Also, it's close position on lost temple. Jinro can just slowpush and use his early advantage. Game 2: MC fails with a 4 gate versus a banshee build. He loses some units and probes and gets a very delayed expansion while being way behind in tech. In the end, Jinro rolls him. | ||
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DarkRise
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On February 06 2011 07:19 mordk wrote: Jinro used more tanks, you CAN go mech against protoss, thorzain failed by making ONLY thors, tanks are a necessity. In that series, jinro also showed hoy 250mm cannons counter immortals while thors+tanks rape stalkers and zealots, more if you add blueflame hellions. That's the correct way to do it. Raven/thor cannot beat that, particularly when not harassing and pressuring early game, and not even scouting properly. My point is that MC went carriers, and he lost because he went carriers. I don't think that game proves anything. Meanwhile, I've seen many games in which Terran goes mech and gets rolled by Protoss late-game, Fenix vs. Kiwi being the latest example from today. | ||
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n0ise
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ShallNoiseUpon
United States311 Posts
The Sauron Toss | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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. I'm always happy when terrans try to mech TvP. But it's just... if countered on maps like xel naga, terrans just get rolled like that.
