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On February 01 2011 11:35 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 10:58 Swede wrote:Artosis knows he's not good enough for Code S and that if he made Code A, which is slightly possible in the future, he'd be at the very bottom, BUT you know he really wishes he could be a better player... Some of his bitterness comes with some jealousy that some players that are better than him or around the same skill lose horrible games and thus shouldn't even be there over him. It's understandable but a lot of the things he says are either not true or get outdated by the time he mentions them again, so from what I see, about 90% of his flaming/bad jabbering is completely worthless and embarrassing to a point.
For example, he does nothing but bash on Choya all day everyday, yet half of the matches he PROMISES Choya is going to get raped in, Choya win but Artosis keeps flaming him for sucking. The thing is, Artosis gives just as much praise to great players when they show that they deserve it. Have you heard him talk about Clide? Nestea? Jinro? IdrA? Tester? etc etc. Most of the time I think he is basically bang on with any criticisms/praise that he has, and I'm thankful for his honesty. Anyway, think of it from his perspective: to the foreigner community, he is essentially the face of the GSL (Tasteless too) - a tournament which is supposed to represent the very best players in the world and thus host some of the most awe-inspiring games. With that in mind, wouldn't you feel embarrassed, a little angry[i] even, to cast games like LittleBoy vs ButterflyEffect? Especially given the fact that he has 12 years of playing and understanding this game behind him, and yet he is forced to see new players come here and make extremely basic mistakes. As far as I'm concerned, the only 2 players he has ever actually 'flamed' are BitByBit and Choya, both of whom deserved it in my opinion. BitByBit for being the epitome of what SC2 SHOULDN'T be, and Choya for fluking his way into Code S off poorly executed 4 gates and other low-skill high-reward builds. Bitter and jealous are just blatant exaggerations. Sounds like you've just convinced yourself that he's worse than he is. Yes, I have heard him give so much praise to so many players "xxxx is SOOOO GOOOOOOOD" and then that player gets completely rolled in the games to come.... I'm not saying that he should only stop his bashing, I'm saying he should stop making such opinionated comments that he has no idea about. Anyone can say "IMNesTea is SUCH a good player" and get away with it, but ... [/i]
But the emotion is part of being an entertainer. Praising and grinding allows for emotions, livelihood. I can imagine that people who really watch for the skills displayed and are only interested in an analysis of a level as high as possible, Tastosis can be at times a bit irritating.
But they're the best team for the widest audience possible.
(btw, of the well-known casters, Tastosis is imho the only one who's actually able to see what it means for what will be coming. In most cases he seems to be a really good magic orb reader :p)
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Hmmm, would never have thought Torch would cast. I'll check him out
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So there is a wild card tourny in 6mins but no thread or anything about it, anyone know it if will be streamed?
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On February 01 2011 12:53 Irrelevant wrote:
So there is a wild card tourny in 6mins but no thread or anything about it, anyone know it if will be streamed?
This, i was wondering where should i post. It doesnt seem like it will be a english stream, but i dont know how to go live on the korean streaming, or if the games are even streamed.
Please someone enlighten us 
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Same here. GomTV site says next live starts in 6 days. 
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Yar, the calendar got me all excited for this wildcard event!
Surely someone knows something about where we cant watch!.. or if we can.. ;(
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I be interested to know if the korean commentators bag out the players and talk about their awesome experience on kr ladder like artosis does 
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Couldnt find anything on the korean gomtv site either
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I hope we can find a way to watch it!
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So seems like it's not being streamed at all
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On February 01 2011 13:06 zor.au wrote:I be interested to know if the korean commentators bag out the players and talk about their awesome experience on kr ladder like artosis does
I doubt it, Tasteosis said that they tend to focus more on entertainment while the Korean commentators tend to be more professional.
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In other thread, someone said that it will be on gisado stream, but i cant find a way to get in there from the korean site because i think i need an account :s anyone knows how to tune in or a restreaming from the korean streaming? (I dont think gom is against this since they are streaming for koreans only :S)
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The wildcard thread magically disappeared. Or was it never there?.
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THAT IS IT! Finally for so long!
The op image of Spades is the one I remember from his sMi days!
Back in the day when he was owning the Brood War scene people made the funniest photoshops out of that picture after his "ordeal". Too funny, great memories, great thread, great people. I love you all.
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The Calendar says the Tournament about the Wildcard Code S Player is finished. But i cant find any info who made it through
Someone knows who won?
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So no foreigners have qualified by themselfs?
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On February 01 2011 12:09 Shorack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 11:35 Shinta) wrote:On February 01 2011 10:58 Swede wrote:Artosis knows he's not good enough for Code S and that if he made Code A, which is slightly possible in the future, he'd be at the very bottom, BUT you know he really wishes he could be a better player... Some of his bitterness comes with some jealousy that some players that are better than him or around the same skill lose horrible games and thus shouldn't even be there over him. It's understandable but a lot of the things he says are either not true or get outdated by the time he mentions them again, so from what I see, about 90% of his flaming/bad jabbering is completely worthless and embarrassing to a point.
For example, he does nothing but bash on Choya all day everyday, yet half of the matches he PROMISES Choya is going to get raped in, Choya win but Artosis keeps flaming him for sucking. The thing is, Artosis gives just as much praise to great players when they show that they deserve it. Have you heard him talk about Clide? Nestea? Jinro? IdrA? Tester? etc etc. Most of the time I think he is basically bang on with any criticisms/praise that he has, and I'm thankful for his honesty. Anyway, think of it from his perspective: to the foreigner community, he is essentially the face of the GSL (Tasteless too) - a tournament which is supposed to represent the very best players in the world and thus host some of the most awe-inspiring games. With that in mind, wouldn't you feel embarrassed, a little angry[i] even, to cast games like LittleBoy vs ButterflyEffect? Especially given the fact that he has 12 years of playing and understanding this game behind him, and yet he is forced to see new players come here and make extremely basic mistakes. As far as I'm concerned, the only 2 players he has ever actually 'flamed' are BitByBit and Choya, both of whom deserved it in my opinion. BitByBit for being the epitome of what SC2 SHOULDN'T be, and Choya for fluking his way into Code S off poorly executed 4 gates and other low-skill high-reward builds. Bitter and jealous are just blatant exaggerations. Sounds like you've just convinced yourself that he's worse than he is. Yes, I have heard him give so much praise to so many players "xxxx is SOOOO GOOOOOOOD" and then that player gets completely rolled in the games to come.... I'm not saying that he should only stop his bashing, I'm saying he should stop making such opinionated comments that he has no idea about. Anyone can say "IMNesTea is SUCH a good player" and get away with it, but ... But the emotion is part of being an entertainer. Praising and grinding allows for emotions, livelihood. I can imagine that people who really watch for the skills displayed and are only interested in an analysis of a level as high as possible, Tastosis can be at times a bit irritating. But they're the best team for the widest audience possible. (btw, of the well-known casters, Tastosis is imho the only one who's actually able to see what it means for what will be coming. In most cases he seems to be a really good magic orb reader :p) [/i]
But Tastosis is wrong so often its ridiculous... That's not unheard of though since they predict so often they are bound to get so many of their predictions wrong..
I don't watch the streams expecting to find mad skills and hope for lame analysis's, I watch it to find professionalism in eSports. When I see Tastosis cast, all I see is 2 foreigners trying to cast a pro Korean match. They do a good job casting it, but it's still a much lower level than the Korean casters, just because they lack proper etiquette and casting professionalism.
On February 01 2011 18:42 Hemula wrote:
So no foreigners have qualified by themselfs?
No foreigner will qualify by themselves.... Do you know how expensive it is just for the foreigners to be there? Imagine if they had to spend the massive amount of time to play Code B, qualify up to Code A, and then have their chance at Code S?
Nobody will ever do it unless they want to live in Korea for a year.
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I saw that unknown Oak guy get interviewed by Artosis, anyone know how he went?
Who are the others in the gomtv house (other than moonglade, spades and torch)?
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On February 01 2011 11:35 Shinta) wrote:
I don't watch the streams expecting to find mad skills and hope for lame analysis's, I watch it to find professionalism in eSports. When I see Tastosis cast, all I see is 2 foreigners trying to cast a pro Korean match. They do a good job casting it, but it's still a much lower level than the Korean casters, just because they lack proper etiquette and casting professionalism.
It's fine that you don't like their casting style, but please stop pretending such a thing as "proper etiquette and casting professionalism" exists as whole in the business. It may be possible to claim such a thing exists in Korean casting scene, but looking at sportcasting as whole, it does not. Casters are first and foremost entertainers; their professionalism amounts to keeping the viewers/listeners entertained and thus increasing viewership and profits. If the target audience dislikes their style, they should change, otherwise there's no obligation. I'd pick Tastosis over the generally boring korean casters anytime.
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so when do we find out who gets the last code s spot?
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