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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 18:52:26
January 20 2011 18:48 GMT
#561
Is base trading the new standard in TvT?

The new draw function has.. uh, creating some interesting scenarios to say the least. Not sure if I like the intensity or if I find it stupid.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 18:53:20
January 20 2011 18:50 GMT
#562
Wow...amazing GG timing by merz haha

JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 20 2011 18:53 GMT
#563
Merz played such a good game 2, and then such a bizarre game 3.

He's never ever going to manage to stall out for a draw here
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 20 2011 18:54 GMT
#564
wow merz amazingly BM staying in the game for so long after he clearly lost :s
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 20 2011 18:55 GMT
#565
On January 21 2011 03:54 Senx wrote:
wow merz amazingly BM staying in the game for so long after he clearly lost :s


lol are you serious? there was nothing BM about that
beep boop
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 18:56:15
January 20 2011 18:55 GMT
#566
On January 21 2011 03:48 vyyye wrote:
Is base trading the new standard in TvT?

The new draw function has.. uh, creating some interesting scenarios to say the least. Not sure if I like the intensity or if I find it stupid.


To some extent. It only takes a handful of marines in dropships to wipe out an entire base w/ stim because their dps is so high. If an opponent's army is out of position and they can't defend it with units at home, going for a base trade is quite often your best option at that point.

also: merz had no idea demuslim had 2 other comand centers in other locations, so he was praying he could possibly kill the few structures he knew remained. Had the whole map been revealed to him he would have gg'd sooner.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 18:56:31
January 20 2011 18:55 GMT
#567
On January 21 2011 03:54 Senx wrote:
wow merz amazingly BM staying in the game for so long after he clearly lost :s

your an idiot

go watch gsl and say marineking is bm aswell plz
the players doesnt have maphack. its sometimes hard to know if ur dead or not so its better to stay and figure it out rather than leaving. u dont wanna watch the replay afterwards and see that u could have won
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 20 2011 18:56 GMT
#568
I dont know why Merz did wait at his planetary fortress with all his units. If he would have dropped earlier he could have forced a draw.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 18:57:14
January 20 2011 18:57 GMT
#569
Merz didnt know he clearly lost, he thought that CC was Demu's last building.
Please don't call people badmannered for fighting for their win.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 20 2011 18:57 GMT
#570
ROFL what is this music...wohooohoooo BARBARA STREISAND.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
January 20 2011 18:58 GMT
#571
can they show something more interesting than 2 white boys looking at their computers? maybe some models or something?
Meow.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 20 2011 18:58 GMT
#572
Everytime I read about bad GG timing I want to punch a kitten.

Well, not really, but almost! xD
Off-season = best season
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
January 20 2011 18:59 GMT
#573
On January 21 2011 03:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 02:56 sleepingdog wrote:
Where's the incentive to have the game stay "less" fair?

Less fair TvT? What? :D

I just dont understand that some of you always have to find something to rage about.


Ya, it's pretty pathetic. I for one wanna see some matches on maps you don't see every day. Really wish the map pool overall was switched up more often.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 20 2011 19:00 GMT
#574
On January 21 2011 03:56 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I dont know why Merz did wait at his planetary fortress with all his units. If he would have dropped earlier he could have forced a draw.


meh, hindsight is 20/20
beep boop
duckland
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland150 Posts
January 20 2011 19:00 GMT
#575
Yo ppl i got some quastion...how many players advance from group?\
First 2?
IM and ST best teams in the world. Nestea and MVP sick good. Jinro ♥ Sjow ♥
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 19:06:06
January 20 2011 19:00 GMT
#576
On January 21 2011 03:55 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 03:54 Senx wrote:
wow merz amazingly BM staying in the game for so long after he clearly lost :s

your an idiot

go watch gsl and say marineking is bm aswell plz
the players doesnt have maphack. its sometimes hard to know if ur dead or not so its better to stay and figure it out rather than leaving. u dont wanna watch the replay afterwards and see that u could have won


He knew demuslin had a bigger army, he knew demuslim still had atleast one CC up, some of his main was still alive. Merz had a smaller army, no income and one startport that was floating in top right to keep him in the game.

I don't understand how you can say it wasn't obvious the game was lost, even from merz' perspective.

I also don't understand how you can make the comparison with MKP when he went for base trades when he had equal or greater amount of bases/units while merz tried to pull a base trade off with less bases and less of an army.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
January 20 2011 19:01 GMT
#577
Be gentle, people, be gentle. I am no TLO and apparently half of Poland is making fun of me :D

I am only on the show because Rotti does not like to be alone on a cast. I am not here to stay!
www.intelextrememasters.com
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 19:04:26
January 20 2011 19:02 GMT
#578
The first four advance.

@Carmac

You are doing quite okay, no complaints from this side! I even think Rotterdam is talking a little bit too much and you should talk a bit more, even though you may not know as much about the game as he does... ^.^
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 20 2011 19:03 GMT
#579
On January 21 2011 04:01 Carmac wrote:
Be gentle, people, be gentle. I am no TLO and apparently half of Poland is making fun of me :D

I am only on the show because Rotti does not like to be alone on a cast. I am not here to stay!


rofl

you're doing fine.
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
January 20 2011 19:03 GMT
#580
On January 21 2011 04:01 Carmac wrote:
Be gentle, people, be gentle. I am no TLO and apparently half of Poland is making fun of me :D

I am only on the show because Rotti does not like to be alone on a cast. I am not here to stay!


Don't worry. There are a lot of guys out there who love you
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