Two teams qualify for a final so EG vs Root does not decide the winner of the tournament. As far as I know we can still qualify if Root loses the next two matches and ends up having a worse overall score.

Finals are already being played out -.-

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

January 31 2011 18:11 GMT

#282

are they forced to use the same aces? or it just turned out like that

TheHunksta

United States122 Posts

January 31 2011 18:19 GMT

#283

Everyone is set to a map, so the aces were decided beforehand yes

Antoine

United States7481 Posts

January 31 2011 19:20 GMT

#284

What's the best way to get the date the games were played? By looking at the date the VOD was uploaded to youtube?

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

January 31 2011 19:25 GMT

#285

i have no beef with Crota, i just don't like how he says "and now" every 7 seconds when transitioning to something new he noticed... if he were to fix that i'd for sure enjoy his casts

Crota

United States90 Posts

February 01 2011 02:29 GMT

#286

On February 01 2011 04:25 RyanRushia wrote:
i have no beef with Crota, i just don't like how he says "and now" every 7 seconds when transitioning to something new he noticed... if he were to fix that i'd for sure enjoy his casts

Sorry about the "and nows." I'm working on that and the "we do have" " we do see"

Anyways - game one is up!.

BrodiaQ

United States892 Posts

February 01 2011 03:07 GMT

#287

Game 1 was awesome! Very back and forth and very exciting.

IamOBESE

United States134 Posts

February 01 2011 04:41 GMT

#288

When can we expect to see the rest of the games?

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

February 01 2011 13:25 GMT

#289

Ignore me

Hi Crota

I was under the impression that ties would be determined by total games won/lost.. we did have a good shot with that. Did something change in the rules or do I misremember?

Hi Victor,

Total games won lost shows that the 4-1 record that Root had vs TL really tipped things in their favor. With me giving Root a 4-3 win over Prime as a result of the deafult wins, Root just barely edges out over TL with the tie breakers.

The policy for their tiebreakers is not about wins/losses (as I thought) but it's about losses so even if Root loses 1-4 it's the same amount of losses. This information was supplied in advance.

(12 vs our 13, whereas they would have 9 wins and we'd have 12)

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

February 01 2011 13:34 GMT

#290

@ what nazgul said... from a spectators view this whole tournament has been blindly waiting to see which clan war would be posted next... there was little to no information given out throughout the entire event

bkrow

Australia8532 Posts

February 01 2011 13:35 GMT

#291

I would like to hear both sides of the story but at the moment - going on what Nazgul has said, that sounds pretty strange.. I doubt anything was done maliciously or anything like that but it seems like it came down to severely poor organisation mixed with "rules made on the fly"..

I hope this can be cleared up/remedied in the future without much flaming between teams

On February 01 2011 22:34 RyanRushia wrote:
@ what nazgul said... from a spectators view this whole tournament has been blindly waiting to see which clan war would be posted next... there was little to no information given out throughout the entire event

Agreed. If it wasnt for some great posts by "ptbl" i probably wouldn't know what the hell was going on during this tournament.

TBO

Germany1350 Posts

February 01 2011 13:43 GMT

#292

is there anywhere mentioned what tiebreakers are being used? And I don't quite understand why crota even mentions tiebreakers when he gave Root a freewin, with that freewin Root would be 3-1 and TL 2-2 overall. Or does he just take a look at total games won (which would be 12 for both) and ignores the results of individual clanwars? Tiebreak format would only be interesting if Root didn't get a freewin and lost vs Prime, putting TL and Root both on 2-2.

TaKemE

Denmark1045 Posts

February 01 2011 13:50 GMT

#293

Even if both Root and TL were 2-2 wouldnt Root still be ahead since they beat TL.

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

February 01 2011 13:55 GMT

#294

Updated my post! Sorry guys.

Orome

Switzerland11984 Posts

February 01 2011 14:01 GMT

#295

On February 01 2011 22:50 TaKemE wrote:
Even if both Root and TL were 2-2 wouldnt Root still be ahead since they beat TL.

They would be ahead, not because they beat TL but because they have less losses. Which is still a bad way to decide the tiebreaker, but hey, it's Crota's tournament I guess.

TBO

Germany1350 Posts

February 01 2011 14:14 GMT

#296

going by losses is indeed a odd way for tiebreakers, either do head to head or win-loss amount next time please.

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

February 01 2011 14:16 GMT

#297

I do want to say that I still find it ridiculous not to penalize people for not finishing up. If we copy this policy to the gosucoaching tournament where we are 9-1 we could just win a few more matches and then sit out and not show up for anything else because we'll make top 4 guaranteed. And I guarantee we will be DQ'd for that.

fabulously

Norway724 Posts

February 01 2011 15:13 GMT

#298

I have tried to keep track of this tournament, thanks to the excellent posts by ptbl I have somewhat managed, but still I am somewhat confused.

With that said, it is quite possible I might be wrong here, if so I apologize, but I thought Prime decided to pull out from the tournament after losing to Mouz, TeamLiquid and EG. Leaving them with no chance to advance. Which means ROOT cant by any means be blamed for their opponent forfeit. Or is there another reason for the talk about penalty/DQ that I have missed?

Sorry to see such a great tournament potential turn into kind of a mess. Hope it doesnt mean the end of MRI though, would really look forward to a follow up. Maybe with some better structure and clearer rules and schedule.

Thanks to everyone involved though, I have been entertained

bkrow

Australia8532 Posts

February 01 2011 22:19 GMT

#299

So wait.. the team with the least losses goes through? There is always a new way to do things i guess..

Anyway - what happened in the finals? Was there an LR thread?

Crota

United States90 Posts

February 02 2011 01:41 GMT

#300

On February 01 2011 23:16 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I do want to say that I still find it ridiculous not to penalize people for not finishing up. If we copy this policy to the gosucoaching tournament where we are 9-1 we could just win a few more matches and then sit out and not show up for anything else because we'll make top 4 guaranteed. And I guarantee we will be DQ'd for that.

I didn't know how to penalize Root for not playing against Prime because Prime stated that they couldn't play any more games. I know there was some scheduling issues with Root previously but by Prime saying they couldn't play, I don't know how I could punish Root for not playing in games that Prime would choose not to play. I don't like how the finals were decided by a loop hole personally and I will make sure to rewrite my rules if I ever host another tournament.

Also game two of the finals is up.