On December 24 2010 20:03 nokz88 wrote:
lol @ the chat again:
Choya: See that Genius?
MKP: T.T
lol @ the chat again:
Choya: See that Genius?
MKP: T.T
LOL , thats for translating
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razamanaz
271 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:03 nokz88 wrote: lol @ the chat again: Choya: See that Genius? MKP: T.T LOL , thats for translating | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4535 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:00 nokz88 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2010 19:57 FataLe wrote: On December 24 2010 19:53 nokz88 wrote: People need to realize that this is not some BitByBitPrime, this is freakin MarineKing, AKA Foxer, the pioneer of the marine heavy style. Among all the marine heavy builds out there, some extremely cheesy and others less so, his stands out as the most solid and prone to lead to macro games. People need to show some respect. You talk about showing respect when you pretty much insulted a Korean pro whilst idolizing another. Not everybody deserves respect dude. Some do, others don't. The important thing is knowing who belongs in the first group. Wow. You have a sad attitude toward things. I don't think either player deserves to be put lower than the other in terms of respect. They both cheese but I still respect them both. | ||
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PanzerKing
United States483 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:03 Shikyo wrote: It always amazes me why people don't just build an engineering bay and a few turrets no matter what without proper scouting information. =/ It's like every time they hope that the opponent doesn't go DTs. Probably a map-specific decision because of the possibility of a backdoor by gateway units. | ||
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wristuzi
United Kingdom1168 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
Choya: Charge! Choya: oops, wait, I don't have the thermal lance (for those who doesn't get the reference, watch his GSL3 series against Jinro) | ||
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odaxium
United States356 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4535 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:04 PanzerKing wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2010 20:03 Shikyo wrote: It always amazes me why people don't just build an engineering bay and a few turrets no matter what without proper scouting information. =/ It's like every time they hope that the opponent doesn't go DTs. Probably a map-specific decision because of the possibility of a backdoor by gateway units. That doesn't make sense since DTs are more common than normal on this map because of backdoor warp-in by them. | ||
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razamanaz
271 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:06 nokz88 wrote: lol @ the chat 3: Choya: Charge! Choya: oops, wait, I don't have the thermal lance (for those who doesn't get the reference, watch his GSL3 series against Jinro) :D thanks again . keep it up , man ! | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Liked the early defence at his back rocks while countering with the DT's, the timing of MK's push worked out rather nicely for him. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On December 24 2010 19:51 FataLe wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2010 19:48 Black Gun wrote: On December 24 2010 19:44 FataLe wrote: On December 24 2010 19:42 Black Gun wrote: seriously guys, stop calling MK cheesy. his strength is clearly his superb marine micro. why shouldnt he use this to his advantage by choosing builds that tend to make the games come down to marine vs X micro duels where he reigns supreme? he is playing to his strengths. I'm the best in the world at cannon rushing. I play to my strength. I don't cheese. ur cannon rushing will never get u to a gsl finals though. cheese is defined as an early game strategy that has a high chance to win u the game if not scouted, and a high chance to lose the game if it is scouted/the opponent knows its coming. well, the players know whats coming when they play against foxer, but he still manages to win with his style. That has a lot to do with T's early game being very strong, that doesn't disregard the fact that most people consider it cheese or gimmicky at the least. But "most people" are idiots. When people call Foxer a cheeser, or a no skill, that shows a lot how deluded people are. They don't like the style of a player (a style that relies heavily on SKILL) they just vomit hate on him and can't be objective. And in a game like starcraft, that fact tells a lot, because it's a game where you need to be objective to be good, to see flaws in your game or others game. Conclusion : people who delude themselves saying someone is bad just because he doesn't play the way they want are bad at/for starcraft. | ||
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
MarineKingPrime has to cheese every game though. I don't remember his macro games. | ||
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Krallin
France431 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:06 razamanaz wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2010 20:06 nokz88 wrote: lol @ the chat 3: Choya: Charge! Choya: oops, wait, I don't have the thermal lance (for those who doesn't get the reference, watch his GSL3 series against Jinro) :D thanks again . keep it up , man ! Hahaha : p He's funny : D | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + MarineKingPrime.WE < 2-1 > NEXGenius
MarineKingPrime.WE < 1-1 > choyafOu
Shit I'm falling asleep lmao... | ||
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odaxium
United States356 Posts
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Qweasdzxc
215 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:07 odaxium wrote: at least they seem to be having a decent time there's nothing on the line here so might as well have fun with it | ||
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Razyel
295 Posts
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Krallin
France431 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:08 Razyel wrote: MKP tries to macro and he loses :D He did not really because his macro sucked eh : / Or maybe we didn't watch the same game | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4535 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:06 MrCon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2010 19:51 FataLe wrote: On December 24 2010 19:48 Black Gun wrote: On December 24 2010 19:44 FataLe wrote: On December 24 2010 19:42 Black Gun wrote: seriously guys, stop calling MK cheesy. his strength is clearly his superb marine micro. why shouldnt he use this to his advantage by choosing builds that tend to make the games come down to marine vs X micro duels where he reigns supreme? he is playing to his strengths. I'm the best in the world at cannon rushing. I play to my strength. I don't cheese. ur cannon rushing will never get u to a gsl finals though. cheese is defined as an early game strategy that has a high chance to win u the game if not scouted, and a high chance to lose the game if it is scouted/the opponent knows its coming. well, the players know whats coming when they play against foxer, but he still manages to win with his style. That has a lot to do with T's early game being very strong, that doesn't disregard the fact that most people consider it cheese or gimmicky at the least. But "most people" are idiots. When, people call Foxer a cheeser, or a no skill, that shows a lot how deluded people are. They don't like the style of a player (a style that relies heavily on SKILL) they just vomit hate on him and can't be objective. And in a game like starcraft, that fact tells a lot, because it's a game where you need to be objective to be good, to see flaws in your game or others game. Conclusion : people who delude themselves saying someone is bad just because he doesn't play the way they want are bad at/for starcraft. That's an over generalization. Just because people consider some of FoxeR's strats as cheese does not auto mean they don't have a clue of how hard it is to micro marines. Wait. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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