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ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
December 24 2010 12:41 GMT
#2241
Yeah, don't hate foxer. He's actually really good for having these really simple, abusive builds. He seems to understand TvP really good. The problem is obviously that terrans can be this greedy and the only one capable of punishing them is MC; and he's not going to write a book about it.
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 24 2010 12:41 GMT
#2242
On December 24 2010 21:40 Ingruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:38 silaser wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:37 Ingruz wrote:
results so far?

SCORES! Gisado Challenge BO3 KOTH Terran vs Prostoss > Marineking 2-1 Genius / Marineking 2-1 Choya / Marineking 2-0 Squirtle / Marineking 2-1 Tester / Marineking awaiting HongUn


mmm it seems that only MC can easily defeat Marineking...

And NesTea...barely.
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
December 24 2010 12:42 GMT
#2243
I think that the protoss is very confused , since he couldn't find no rax anywhere.
ヽ(´ー`)┌
kemsley
Profile Joined October 2010
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
December 24 2010 12:42 GMT
#2244
On December 24 2010 21:36 syllogism wrote:
Horrible decision making by every toss so far


Yeah, they didn't pick Terran.


This made me roar LOL
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
December 24 2010 12:42 GMT
#2245
On December 24 2010 21:39 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:36 syllogism wrote:
Horrible decision making by every toss so far

Come off it, it's clear that cheap-ass marines and marauders in numbers early on are almost impossible to stop. You only can use sentries and FF, but sentries do no damage, they are fucking useless for killing.


It's not impossible. Sang-ho opening would do fine.
Crixus
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 13:13:57
December 24 2010 12:42 GMT
#2246
MC won 3 games, 2 of them where when MK went 2 base and MC did 1 base timing attacks, and the other win was from a 1 gate proxy

"Don't be afraid. You have all the weapons you need. Your fight for survival starts right now."
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
December 24 2010 12:42 GMT
#2247
On December 24 2010 21:39 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:36 Xxavi wrote:
As for Foxer, he can disappear for all I care. It's disgraceful that he does the same shit every time and gets away with it. Fucking Terran.


Ok, the protoss-player in me also pretty pissed right now, but please stop the Foxer hate?
He is a good player and simply plays following the concept "never change a winning strat"

He has really good micro and simply (ab)uses Terran early game strength to the maximum. Nothing wrong with that.

For me, it is wrong yes. Because this isn't even GSL and the games aren't for 90k. It's just mostly fun games with Motherships, BMs and this and that, something like a holiday season gift for fans.

The greedy fucker cares about nobody, keeps abusing the broken shit. OK, we got it by now it works, fucking try something else for a change. It's not like Terran are going to lose if Foxer fails now.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
December 24 2010 12:43 GMT
#2248
Maybe this might be news to most people here, but MKP is winning because he's actually the better player.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4559 Posts
December 24 2010 12:43 GMT
#2249
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories

How many Top level Zergs and Protoss must be all-killed to prove that it's not skill, it's racial balance.
hi. big fan.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 24 2010 12:44 GMT
#2250
well mkp lost it himself there, although it was funny
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 24 2010 12:44 GMT
#2251
It'd be hilarious if HongUn did actually stop MKP after all this xD
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2010 12:44 GMT
#2252
On December 24 2010 21:40 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:38 PanzerKing wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:36 Mainland wrote:
How come it felt like Tester wasn't producing anything.


Because he lost a lot of probes early on.

Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.

Oh and because Protoss units are EXPENSIVE. 4 Gate can't really be supported after a while.

Mmm well Zealot/Sentry can(2 zealots and a sentry cost just as much as 2 stalkers), but yeah if you want Stalkers you really can't support it after a few rallies, and they're the only gateway units that don't fail horribly vs Terran(until he gets stim). The forcefields can hold out until the Protoss gets some tech up, though. At least P destroyed this proxy garbage this time.
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
December 24 2010 12:44 GMT
#2253
Nice counteratack by the toss, GG by MKP
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Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
December 24 2010 12:45 GMT
#2254
Well that match was...interesting. Maybe MKP is showing mercy (or is just bored of playing).
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
December 24 2010 12:45 GMT
#2255
On December 24 2010 21:40 Ingruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:38 silaser wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:37 Ingruz wrote:
results so far?

SCORES! Gisado Challenge BO3 KOTH Terran vs Prostoss > Marineking 2-1 Genius / Marineking 2-1 Choya / Marineking 2-0 Squirtle / Marineking 2-1 Tester / Marineking awaiting HongUn


mmm it seems that only MC can easily defeat Marineking...


now? I don't think so. MK has improved so much.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
SgtMuffins
Profile Joined June 2010
United States37 Posts
December 24 2010 12:45 GMT
#2256
Wait, HongUn is going to be the one to stop the all-kill? What the hell is going on here? Tester couldn't do it, Genius couldn't do it... but HongUn can? I'm a little surprised. MKP must be getting really tired.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 12:46:13
December 24 2010 12:45 GMT
#2257
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories


Fruitdealer winning GSL 1 didn't change the fact that zerg was UP at this point in time either - not saying T is OP vs P, but those arguments are irrelevant, with enough skill you can always win, even if the race you played "was" UP.

EDIT: meh, didn't want to give into the imba-debate; nice defense from hongun, great decisionmaking.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
December 24 2010 12:45 GMT
#2258
man artosis was right when he said reading this stuff gives brain cancer
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
December 24 2010 12:46 GMT
#2259
On December 24 2010 21:43 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories

How many Top level Zergs and Protoss must be all-killed to prove that it's not skill, it's racial balance.


Everything boils down to stim being a crazy upgrade that gives so much kiting ability. If zealots and stalkers, or zerglings and roaches had stim.....rofl...
Pew pew!
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
December 24 2010 12:46 GMT
#2260
On December 24 2010 21:44 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:40 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:38 PanzerKing wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:36 Mainland wrote:
How come it felt like Tester wasn't producing anything.


Because he lost a lot of probes early on.

Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.

Oh and because Protoss units are EXPENSIVE. 4 Gate can't really be supported after a while.

Mmm well Zealot/Sentry can(2 zealots and a sentry cost just as much as 2 stalkers), but yeah if you want Stalkers you really can't support it after a few rallies, and they're the only gateway units that don't fail horribly vs Terran(until he gets stim). The forcefields can hold out until the Protoss gets some tech up, though. At least P destroyed this proxy garbage this time.


pretty ridiculous how terran can double proxy rax then lift off and go home lol ...
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