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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4559 Posts
December 24 2010 12:46 GMT
#2261
On December 24 2010 21:43 Daozzt wrote:
Maybe this might be news to most people here, but MKP is winning because he's actually the better player.

I lol'd.
hi. big fan.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 24 2010 12:46 GMT
#2262
On December 24 2010 21:45 Kokujin wrote:
man artosis was right when he said reading this stuff gives brain cancer


yea for sure
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
December 24 2010 12:47 GMT
#2263
On December 24 2010 21:44 Asha` wrote:
It'd be hilarious if HongUn did actually stop MKP after all this xD


Imagine that you played 12 intense games in a roll....
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 24 2010 12:47 GMT
#2264
On December 24 2010 21:46 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:44 Shikyo wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:40 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:38 PanzerKing wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:36 Mainland wrote:
How come it felt like Tester wasn't producing anything.


Because he lost a lot of probes early on.

Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.

Oh and because Protoss units are EXPENSIVE. 4 Gate can't really be supported after a while.

Mmm well Zealot/Sentry can(2 zealots and a sentry cost just as much as 2 stalkers), but yeah if you want Stalkers you really can't support it after a few rallies, and they're the only gateway units that don't fail horribly vs Terran(until he gets stim). The forcefields can hold out until the Protoss gets some tech up, though. At least P destroyed this proxy garbage this time.


pretty ridiculous how terran can double proxy rax then lift off and go home lol ...

and die
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
December 24 2010 12:47 GMT
#2265
On December 24 2010 21:46 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:44 Shikyo wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:40 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:38 PanzerKing wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:36 Mainland wrote:
How come it felt like Tester wasn't producing anything.


Because he lost a lot of probes early on.

Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.

Oh and because Protoss units are EXPENSIVE. 4 Gate can't really be supported after a while.

Mmm well Zealot/Sentry can(2 zealots and a sentry cost just as much as 2 stalkers), but yeah if you want Stalkers you really can't support it after a few rallies, and they're the only gateway units that don't fail horribly vs Terran(until he gets stim). The forcefields can hold out until the Protoss gets some tech up, though. At least P destroyed this proxy garbage this time.


pretty ridiculous how terran can double proxy rax then lift off and go home lol ...


thats not the only thing ridiculous about terran, MULES are ridiculous too uhh also that bunkers are free. the fact they have flying DTs..... just to name a few
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
December 24 2010 12:47 GMT
#2266
On December 24 2010 21:43 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories

How many Top level Zergs and Protoss must be all-killed to prove that it's not skill, it's racial balance.


i think MarineKingPrime is arguably better / more succesful so far than choya/tester/genius in GSL.

I think the hate is flowing strong right now because he is doing the same thing every game as MVP did the other day. When MC won, he was well liked because although he cheesed now and then, he practically do something different everytime.

MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 24 2010 12:48 GMT
#2267
OMG, here we are the topic is now in bnet forum mode ><
MULE IMBA LOL
STIM IMBA LOL
LIFT IMBA LOL
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4559 Posts
December 24 2010 12:48 GMT
#2268
On December 24 2010 21:45 SgtMuffins wrote:
Wait, HongUn is going to be the one to stop the all-kill? What the hell is going on here? Tester couldn't do it, Genius couldn't do it... but HongUn can? I'm a little surprised. MKP must be getting really tired.

Err, he waited for the right amount of time to reveal himself, HongUn just had better decisions.
hi. big fan.
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
December 24 2010 12:48 GMT
#2269
On December 24 2010 21:45 Kokujin wrote:
man artosis was right when he said reading this stuff gives brain cancer


^
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 24 2010 12:49 GMT
#2270
On December 24 2010 21:47 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:43 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories

How many Top level Zergs and Protoss must be all-killed to prove that it's not skill, it's racial balance.


i think MarineKingPrime is arguably better / more succesful so far than choya/tester/genius in GSL.

I think the hate is flowing strong right now because he is doing the same thing every game as MVP did the other day. When MC won, he was well liked because although he cheesed now and then, he practically do something different everytime.


MK used like 5 differents builds so far, he played what, 12 games ? Does he have to change build each game ?
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
December 24 2010 12:49 GMT
#2271
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories


You might wanna consider the chance that terran doesn't have players of MC / FD & NesTea's calibre.. and they're just getting by on cheesy builds and not much else (BitByBit, TSL_Rain++)

.. this is of course putting it a bit blunt, but you get my drift.. You could look at the MC example as "the only one who is good enough to power down the racial balances between P and T" for instance..
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 24 2010 12:49 GMT
#2272
Wow MK powering SO FREAKIGN HARD
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
December 24 2010 12:49 GMT
#2273
On December 24 2010 21:46 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:43 Daozzt wrote:
Maybe this might be news to most people here, but MKP is winning because he's actually the better player.

I lol'd.

I recommend this thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179250
Its really awesome !! I guarantee no head cancer

Gogogo kill the T scum
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4559 Posts
December 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#2274
On December 24 2010 21:47 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:43 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:41 nokz88 wrote:
How many Terrans does MC need to wreck to prove that it all comes down to skill, not racial balance?

People around here have short memories

How many Top level Zergs and Protoss must be all-killed to prove that it's not skill, it's racial balance.


i think MarineKingPrime is arguably better / more succesful so far than choya/tester/genius in GSL.

I think the hate is flowing strong right now because he is doing the same thing every game as MVP did the other day. When MC won, he was well liked because although he cheesed now and then, he practically do something different everytime.


Hell no MC's play had more variety in it than both these Terrans. I agree that he's more successful but not actually better, than all of them lol.
hi. big fan.
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
December 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#2275
On December 24 2010 21:46 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:44 Shikyo wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:40 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:38 PanzerKing wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:36 Mainland wrote:
How come it felt like Tester wasn't producing anything.


Because he lost a lot of probes early on.

Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.

Oh and because Protoss units are EXPENSIVE. 4 Gate can't really be supported after a while.

Mmm well Zealot/Sentry can(2 zealots and a sentry cost just as much as 2 stalkers), but yeah if you want Stalkers you really can't support it after a few rallies, and they're the only gateway units that don't fail horribly vs Terran(until he gets stim). The forcefields can hold out until the Protoss gets some tech up, though. At least P destroyed this proxy garbage this time.


pretty ridiculous how terran can double proxy rax then lift off and go home lol ...


That is a very ignorant thing to say, especially since he didn't even do that. He wouldn't even consider taking his barracks back to his base because he can't produce in transit.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#2276
On December 24 2010 21:45 SgtMuffins wrote:
Wait, HongUn is going to be the one to stop the all-kill? What the hell is going on here? Tester couldn't do it, Genius couldn't do it... but HongUn can? I'm a little surprised. MKP must be getting really tired.


Well HongUn does some weird stuff, but it's not like he's truly awful. Tester isn't as good as everyone wants him to be, and genius had his chances but tried that double proxygate on scrap that got crushed. (Choya was probably the closest so far, just poor tech choice in the third cost him imo)
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
December 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#2277
On December 24 2010 21:46 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:44 Shikyo wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:40 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:38 PanzerKing wrote:
On December 24 2010 21:36 Mainland wrote:
How come it felt like Tester wasn't producing anything.


Because he lost a lot of probes early on.

Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.

Oh and because Protoss units are EXPENSIVE. 4 Gate can't really be supported after a while.

Mmm well Zealot/Sentry can(2 zealots and a sentry cost just as much as 2 stalkers), but yeah if you want Stalkers you really can't support it after a few rallies, and they're the only gateway units that don't fail horribly vs Terran(until he gets stim). The forcefields can hold out until the Protoss gets some tech up, though. At least P destroyed this proxy garbage this time.


pretty ridiculous how terran can double proxy rax then lift off and go home lol ...


also ridiculous how protoss can proxy pylon and transfer units over a long distance instantaneously .
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
qck
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
December 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#2278
I wish you homunculus mongoloids stopped spouting opinions and instead just enjoyed the games.
"Who'd like a banger in the mouth? Oh, Christ, I forgot! Here in the States you call it a 'sausage' in the mouth." -- Tobias Fünke
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#2279
fast expand 5 rax no gaz for MK :D
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
December 24 2010 12:52 GMT
#2280
On December 24 2010 21:39 vrok wrote:
Also, he was warping in zealots to harass MK's SCVs.


You do know this was the only thing he could really do. He cut probe production and lost a few in the battle. So the only way he was going to win was to cut into MKP's economy and then try to hold off long enough for things to stabilize.

The harass would have been more effective if he didn't suicide single zealots and instead gathered about 3 of them before attack the mineral line
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