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HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
December 18 2010 23:45 GMT
#4541
JangMinChul is an absolute beast, it's understood. I just wish he met a true competitor in the finals. I'm seriously so disappointed that Rain eliminated NesTea in the RO8 stealing a truly epic PvZ final from the viewers!!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 19 2010 01:10 GMT
#4542
On December 01 2010 09:05 jalstar wrote:
Minchul gonna win this GSL.


Nailed it.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
December 19 2010 01:45 GMT
#4543
On December 19 2010 05:50 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 03:34 Metalwing wrote:
So, let me understand this for one more time: Game 2 is the most recommended game among all, and even that game is slightly above mediocre in my opinion (especially with tastosis observing quality, i like them so much but observing just sucked at that game). Yes, 21 kill DT and 20 kill HT were good, really really good, but MC drilling through Rain's containment without even microing a bit was nuts. I just couldn't watch it until the end. Actually I could, but I regret it.


Uh what? Those immortals didn't avoid shooting marines on their own. And that zealot flank from behind sealed the deal.


With all due respect, I would not call that great micro, he a-moved from a flank while warping in some distraction maneuvers. I was really dissapointed by the finals from a spectator point of view, the Imortal really is a let down spectator wise. I wish they remove it anytime soon from the game, since all that is somewhat interesting to watch is tanks PvT, and the I nullify tanks, as any spectator creed.

Sir, let me show you what "micro" in the SC world means, in relation to PvT, micro for me is not "great forcefields":

Micro

Overall, the entertainment keeps going down every GSL final, and mostly it is due to the broken (spectator wise) PvT MU. If you guys are thrilled by this final, I believe you haven´t started your life as an esport spectator with BW, but came here later. Luckily, I doubt it will be any more PvT final in the GSL for a long time.

User was warned for this post
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
December 19 2010 02:25 GMT
#4544
I know rain wasn't exactly showing a "top-tier" TvP from the T's perspective but game 2 really really showed just how overpowered the khadarian amulet upgrade is. I really hope blizzard changes that because it's just not fair.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 19 2010 02:29 GMT
#4545
On December 19 2010 10:45 HowardRoark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 05:50 sylverfyre wrote:
On December 19 2010 03:34 Metalwing wrote:
So, let me understand this for one more time: Game 2 is the most recommended game among all, and even that game is slightly above mediocre in my opinion (especially with tastosis observing quality, i like them so much but observing just sucked at that game). Yes, 21 kill DT and 20 kill HT were good, really really good, but MC drilling through Rain's containment without even microing a bit was nuts. I just couldn't watch it until the end. Actually I could, but I regret it.


Uh what? Those immortals didn't avoid shooting marines on their own. And that zealot flank from behind sealed the deal.


With all due respect, I would not call that great micro, he a-moved from a flank while warping in some distraction maneuvers. I was really dissapointed by the finals from a spectator point of view, the Imortal really is a let down spectator wise. I wish they remove it anytime soon from the game, since all that is somewhat interesting to watch is tanks PvT, and the I nullify tanks, as any spectator creed.

Sir, let me show you what "micro" in the SC world means, in relation to PvT, micro for me is not "great forcefields":

Micro

Overall, the entertainment keeps going down every GSL final, and mostly it is due to the broken (spectator wise) PvT MU. If you guys are thrilled by this final, I believe you haven´t started your life as an esport spectator with BW, but came here later. Luckily, I doubt it will be any more PvT final in the GSL for a long time.


I'm sorry buy are you saying blizzard needs to get rid of the immortal? Like completely get rid of it? That's a massive statement.. With little evidence to back it up besides that it makes things less entertaining for u..
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
December 19 2010 02:32 GMT
#4546
On December 19 2010 08:16 flamewheel wrote:
Legend of the Fall.


Actually LOL'd at this, brilliant
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
December 19 2010 02:37 GMT
#4547
Leenock is clearly the best... he is only 13 and have so much more potential.. SO LOOK OUT guys for gsl4 .. because this guy will GLAD LEE KNOCK YOU DOWN>>>>>>>
iNversion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States107 Posts
December 19 2010 02:40 GMT
#4548
On December 19 2010 11:37 ilmman wrote:
Leenock is clearly the best... he is only 13 and have so much more potential.. SO LOOK OUT guys for gsl4 .. because this guy will GLAD LEE KNOCK YOU DOWN>>>>>>>

you clearly contradict yourself. potential in the future due to his young age does not equal being the best right now. he is good and played well this gsl apart from a couple decision making mistakes against marineking but i don't think he's even the best zerg atm let alone the best player in gsl4. also lol glad lee?
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 19 2010 02:41 GMT
#4549
amazing play, even from rain. stop using this as an argument for balance guys, please. MC played better then anyone this tournament, he deserved this win
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
December 19 2010 02:46 GMT
#4550
Probably helps Jinro's confidence a bit

He went from thinking

"wow, i f*d up a lot"

to

"Nvm, this guy is power overwhelming"
^ Probably a Troll Post
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-19 02:47:44
December 19 2010 02:46 GMT
#4551
Leenock is da best right now and because of his age it means hes going to improve more.,.. Starcraft 2 is still in its early stages and it seems high level tournaments are being abused because of easy skillless controls.. its that little step of higher skill that leenock shows that serperates his skills from everyone else. he win gsl 4 ... and yes, i hope no foreigner wins any Korean tournament
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
December 19 2010 03:06 GMT
#4552
On December 19 2010 10:45 HowardRoark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 05:50 sylverfyre wrote:
On December 19 2010 03:34 Metalwing wrote:
So, let me understand this for one more time: Game 2 is the most recommended game among all, and even that game is slightly above mediocre in my opinion (especially with tastosis observing quality, i like them so much but observing just sucked at that game). Yes, 21 kill DT and 20 kill HT were good, really really good, but MC drilling through Rain's containment without even microing a bit was nuts. I just couldn't watch it until the end. Actually I could, but I regret it.


Uh what? Those immortals didn't avoid shooting marines on their own. And that zealot flank from behind sealed the deal.


With all due respect, I would not call that great micro, he a-moved from a flank while warping in some distraction maneuvers. I was really dissapointed by the finals from a spectator point of view, the Imortal really is a let down spectator wise. I wish they remove it anytime soon from the game, since all that is somewhat interesting to watch is tanks PvT, and the I nullify tanks, as any spectator creed.

Sir, let me show you what "micro" in the SC world means, in relation to PvT, micro for me is not "great forcefields":

Micro

Overall, the entertainment keeps going down every GSL final, and mostly it is due to the broken (spectator wise) PvT MU. If you guys are thrilled by this final, I believe you haven´t started your life as an esport spectator with BW, but came here later. Luckily, I doubt it will be any more PvT final in the GSL for a long time.


Your elitism is retarded. I've watched OSL finals since Reach and Boxer, and the GSL finals are still good to watch.

Keep your opinions to yourself and stop stating them as facts.
NEWB?!
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
December 19 2010 03:15 GMT
#4553
lol that was probably the most anticlimactic series of all time. I wish rain got knocked out in the ro16 or something. solid play by mc though. he definitely deserved the win ^^
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ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
December 19 2010 03:17 GMT
#4554
Rain has got to be the most undeserving GSL finalist ever...Still curious to see MC's PvP though. I still don't know if his invincible PvT is enough to crown him as the best Protoss in the world.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 19 2010 03:18 GMT
#4555
Why do people keep bringing SC into SC2 and vice versa? It's a different game.

It's good to see a high-caliber P player finally win GSL. Well played!
[TLMS] REBOOT
konaman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia283 Posts
December 19 2010 03:22 GMT
#4556
On December 19 2010 08:26 baoluvboa wrote:
mc is definitely the most exciting protoss to watch
genius and tester are probably just as good but they are too solid and macro oriented which are figured out by current terrans and effectively countered. Mc's aggressive play will be figured out too by terrans so he won't be as dominating in the future imo.

Basically meta games go tester/genius style < terran current style < mc current style < future T style


I don't agree with your analysis of Tester, the problem is he doesn't play solid enough. He does strange things at times rather than sticking to a more fundamental style of play, this allows him to lose to players who have lesser mechanics on a frequent basis.

His micro is as good as anyone yet his style of play doesn't really maximise it, the best way i could describe Tester is he plays like someone who is playing against a fundamentally better player at times, except they aren't.



Deyster
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Jordan579 Posts
December 19 2010 03:24 GMT
#4557
Hate to be a total noob and ask this, but I really want to know: What does the "P5" or "T7" mean next to player names? I know the P/T/Z regards to the race, but what do the numbers mean?
Watch the minimap.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-19 03:26:01
December 19 2010 03:25 GMT
#4558
Spawn positions. 5= 5 o'clock 7 = 7 o'clock
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
skypacer
Profile Joined July 2003
China174 Posts
December 19 2010 03:28 GMT
#4559
On December 19 2010 12:17 ppshchik wrote:
Rain has got to be the most undeserving GSL finalist ever...Still curious to see MC's PvP though. I still don't know if his invincible PvT is enough to crown him as the best Protoss in the world.

As to PvP, MC had a dominating performance whenever playing against Genius in Team League.
by.Fantasy
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
December 19 2010 04:00 GMT
#4560
On December 19 2010 03:07 mr_tolkien wrote:
This results make no sense to me... How has Rain won a single game ? oO

Bancheese ???


On December 19 2010 05:43 headies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 05:13 ToasteR_ wrote:
Congratulation to MC for the win, I think it's what most people expected. However, Rain played a brilliant third game. Hopefully we see more play like that from him in the future.

Brilliant = winning on a gimmick like a scouted, canceled rax into banshee play? And still almost losing?

Really, MC lost that game because he got overeager with his colossus push. Definitely should have waited.

MC is just miles ahead of Rain, that series was very lopsided. Game 2 was extremely entertaining, still.


SIGH. I swear, some people must watch these tournaments just to have something to hate on. I wonder why this overly negative attitude is so prevalent for SC2 tournaments and not for most sports and competitions in general. After a competitive Super Bowl game, most people tend to be pretty happy, they saw some good action and a few exciting plays, and even if the scores weren't close later in the game, they appreciated the competition.

I think of some SC2 fans watched it, all they would talk about it how much it sucked, how Team 2 never should have gotten so far, how calling Random Defensive Play cost them the game, and just harp on everything negative they can think of.

To everyone hating on Rain... I'll consider your opinion valid when you reach the GSL finals.

In games 1 and 2, Rain brought some extremely strong offense that would have crushed every single Protoss player on these forums. MC's exceptional skill was able to show, as he managed to survive it.

In game 3 Rain thoroughly outplayed MC and defeated him with mindgames. MC is so damn good he almost stopped it, which made it more exciting than it could have been.

It fell apart for Rain after that, but you can't deny that he had three very strong games and brought a serious challenge to the heavily favored best protoss player in the world.

I just wish that fewer people would find that "being a hater" is fun for them, and instead would try out "being a Starcraft fan".
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