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On December 03 2010 19:58 steamrice wrote: leenock wasted too much gas on infestors and some ultras to mass banelings... you guys act like zerg has infinite resources and that's why no one goes infestors vs marineking when he keeps pushing.
Investing resources into the Infestor is actually cheaper and faster than investing in Mutas.
Gas-Wise, Investing in 4 Mutas = Investing in 2 Pathogen Gland Infestors
5 Mutas = 3 Infestors.
And that's just gas-wise, Infestors are cheaper Mineral-wise in both comparisons.
And Pathogen Gland Infestors come out faster than Mutas.
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You guys are forgetting that Foxer took out like 4 or 5 expansions from Leenock...
remember what marineking said? you go infestors hes gonna keep pushing knowing you using up a lot of resources for that tech.
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kinda disappointed. I understand why foxer won, but in all seriousness: He only won because of the huge mistakes of his opponent. Foxer has no chance whatsoever against nestea or fruitdealer (he even struggled, despite the huge mistakes of his opponent). I would have prefered to see a more stable and experienced player advance, who wins because of strategy, not because of opponents sloppiness. Oh well, RO8 gotta to have one-sided games I suppose.
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Fruitdealer beat BitbybitPrime on Jungle Basin, everyone who is saying it's TvZ 7-0 is wrong.
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On December 03 2010 19:58 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 19:57 Raskit wrote: MarineKing is literally the only player I dislike >_>. You hate MK but don't hate BitByBitPrime?
Sounds like a fail. BBB was sooo terribad. Glad FD beat that shit down.
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On December 03 2010 19:57 Indel wrote: T 7-0 Z on jungle basic. Great map.
Just wait until Fruit Dealers plays on it.
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just realized foxer is actually quite good looking... think asians dig the cutesy type.
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On December 03 2010 19:51 dabom88 wrote: YES. THIS IS THE INFESTOR PLAY I'VE SAID WOULD WORK BUT NO ONE BELIEVE ME.
On December 03 2010 19:53 dabom88 wrote: .... CHANGE YOUR BUILD NOW MK, YOUR OPPONENT HAS INFESTORS. For goodness sakes, make some Tanks.
hahaha
That being said of course infestors are a counter to what MarineKing does, I doubt that "no one believed you"
that map is very hard for Z though and Leenock made some mistakes
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Infestors are good but you need the 3rd base gas to support them. If you don't get mutas off 2 base, then he can just run around abusing medivacs.
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On December 03 2010 19:59 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 19:57 HolydaKing wrote:t_t ultralisks + infestor < marines  maybe he just had too few ultra, but still... :D Was not able to land a single Fungal when his Ultras went against Marines. Marines < Banelings . Marines>Ultras Marauders > Banelings , Marauders < Ultras Both of them had about equal armies but Foxer denying Leenock the Third base Really killed him bad. That's wrong, he landed fungals, like 3-4.
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if we're going to criticize Tasteless for the anthropomorphize comment, we have to criticize Artosis for perpetuating the myth that the tryptophan content in turkey makes you anymore sleepy than other foods.
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just when i thought foxer becoming some likable player, he decided to use back his ugly pure marine play. HATE foxer.
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He managed to lose the worst way possible in SP, have poor macro on scrap (still won with 1.5+ banked whole game and idle drones) and decided to go ultras of 2 bases in set 3. Just poor play with a decent map pool.
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Dunno.... he had a very good marine spread against infestors. Ultras weren't a good choice but when Foxer started pumping up units he was very cost effective even against infestor bling. Not being able to put up 3rd hurt him more than going for ultras imo.
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Disappointing series. Even with the map disadvantage, I expected Leenock to put up more of a fight. Nerves got to him ? It seems he played better in his earlier rounds. Or maybe MK is just *that* good.
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Love MK....he is the beacon of micro and unit positioning when everyone else is constantly focusing on macro...
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On December 03 2010 19:56 summerloud wrote: jungle basin tvz: 7-0
also, im glad that overrated zerg kid is out
lol ppl dont even consider fruitdealer vs bbbprime yesterday as a game
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MarineKing is a beast with those unit , damn why would he change his tactics when he knows that he can win with it.
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On December 03 2010 19:57 SpeaKEaSY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 19:55 Fa1nT wrote:On December 03 2010 19:54 ProperOne wrote: This game is a great example of why this map is horrible. Leenocks build was horrible. 2 base ultra vs marines? It's not like he PLANNED to 2 base ultra, he had other expos up but MKPrime killed them quick and kept applying pressure so he was forced to play off of 2 bases.
still its stupid to even tech to ultras as long as you dont have your expos secured or some cash piled up
more infestors, more banelings, roaches or hydras plz. he knows whats coming from marineking, that was just bad decision making
i also cannot state enough how overhyped this kid is, he had an awesome series vs clide, but those games, while being extremely entertaining, werent necessarily top-level. then he got bye easy vs guinepig
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