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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 12:36:11
November 16 2010 12:35 GMT
#5101
On November 16 2010 21:35 The KY wrote:
Protoss is the race of men. We don't complain, we suck it up and fight harder.

Well actually Terran is the race of men, zerg is the race of bugs and Protoss are the race of...well I don't actually know what Protoss are.

Dolphin men. Check out Artanis on the Brood War loading screen.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 12:38:27
November 16 2010 12:36 GMT
#5102
On November 16 2010 21:31 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:28 Sewi wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:25 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:19 Darksoldierr wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.


And why do you think, less "pros" playing with protoss?



I don't hear any Pro-toss players actually complaining though. If anyone else has feel free to correct me.


I think in the interviews from yesterdays qualifiers, MC stated that Blizz should nerf Marauders and that Roach range 4 should be put back to 3.


He didn't say it. He said that he feels "protoss is very hard to play. Zerg became stronger, and PvT became more of a build order risk. Force fields are the core of protoss, but it became harder since gateway units aren’t very effective". No calling for nerf, though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169153#1


Ups, I confused him with coreZenith who stated:

Q. Protoss hasn’t been doing well in the last 2 seasons.
A. They have to nerf marauders. They should also return the old range of 3 to roaches. I also wish they would bring back the old zealots. Protoss is so hard.

Thought it was MC since I just remembered him talking about PvT issues...
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 16 2010 12:36 GMT
#5103
On November 16 2010 21:28 zivac wrote:
It may sound very stupid for 99% people here on forum but i actually think reason for tester losing this game has to do something with numerology reading of his nick and recent nick change.

Tester in numerology gives sum of 23 which is very good number regarding luck and many other factors, while sSKS sum is giving number 11, which is very very bad number and ppl should run aways from that.

It sounds stupid but it could be explaination :D


I just looked at your aura and the violet splotches indicate that you will give birth to kittens tomorrow.

Now, I know what you might say. "I'm not a cat, or female!".

Auras never lie.
whatsgrackalackin420
Lunchtime
Profile Joined August 2010
183 Posts
November 16 2010 12:36 GMT
#5104
Actually Terran is the race of men. Protoss is the race of mysterious and silent aliens. That's why we don't complain.

We're secretive plant people.
razamanaz
Profile Joined August 2010
271 Posts
November 16 2010 12:37 GMT
#5105
to who did tester lose ? :/
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 16 2010 12:37 GMT
#5106
WHAT ? Tester again ?
wtf is wrong with tosses ?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
November 16 2010 12:37 GMT
#5107
On November 16 2010 21:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:25 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:19 Darksoldierr wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.


And why do you think, less "pros" playing with protoss?


No idea why tbh, but I'd definitely say that outside of 5 or 6 really good toss players it's essentially a bunch of randoms and cannon fodder who aren't up to scratch. Idra said something once about it being easy to get good with toss, hard to be great. Could be something in that.

I don't hear any Pro-toss players actually complaining though. If anyone else has feel free to correct me.

Protoss is the race of men. We don't complain, we suck it up and fight harder.


I'd say Protoss is probably desensitized after seeing years and years of failure in OSL/MSL/No protoss bonjwa and nothing is being done while Terran and Zergs are throwing imbalanced accusations at each other. Kinda a bystander race so to speak.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 12:40:00
November 16 2010 12:37 GMT
#5108
On November 16 2010 21:32 lacho_u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:28 Plexa wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:25 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:19 Darksoldierr wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.


And why do you think, less "pros" playing with protoss?


No idea why tbh, but I'd definitely say that outside of 5 or 6 really good toss players it's essentially a bunch of randoms and cannon fodder who aren't up to scratch. Idra said something once about it being easy to get good with toss, hard to be great. Could be something in that.

I don't hear any Pro-toss players actually complaining though. If anyone else has feel free to correct me.

Protoss is the race of men. We don't complain, we suck it up and fight harder.



Fair enough


On November 16 2010 21:36 Lunchtime wrote:
Actually Terran is the race of men. Protoss is the race of mysterious and silent aliens. That's why we don't complain.

We're secretive plant people.



Actually, Terran is the race of men.

Protoss is the race of high-tech pony-tail wielding aliens
I think esports is pretty nice.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 16 2010 12:38 GMT
#5109
DayFly cant get thru once again
iNoobSoWhat
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation370 Posts
November 16 2010 12:38 GMT
#5110
SC2 Protoss waiting for Nal_rA or for Bisu.
Tirr
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation122 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5111
Really sad to see all those great protoss to fail... Don't wanna talk about balance, but GSL will be very boring after Ro64 - almost sure most of protoss qualifiers will be knocked out in the very first round...
MiNDtriX
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden146 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5112
Actually, Terran is the race of men.

Protoss is the race of Wuh-men, who's a little less hairy and cries when not recieving latest hand bag.
I don't rap about bitches and hoes. I rap about witches and trolls.
zivac
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia389 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5113
On November 16 2010 21:36 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:28 zivac wrote:
It may sound very stupid for 99% people here on forum but i actually think reason for tester losing this game has to do something with numerology reading of his nick and recent nick change.

Tester in numerology gives sum of 23 which is very good number regarding luck and many other factors, while sSKS sum is giving number 11, which is very very bad number and ppl should run aways from that.

It sounds stupid but it could be explaination :D


I just looked at your aura and the violet splotches indicate that you will give birth to kittens tomorrow.

Now, I know what you might say. "I'm not a cat, or female!".

Auras never lie.


ill inform u tommorow if you are wrong, but you still can't dispute my theory as false tt
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5114
On November 16 2010 21:29 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.

This is a retarded post.

So, please tell me how MOST of these players that are popular right now got popular? They got popular from their PERFORMANCE in SC2. How can we know who is TRULY a good Toss player, if the RACE is setting them back? This is an infinite loop argument, you can't have top players without balance.


My problem with this is that it implies that players like NexGenius are actually much better than everyone else because they perform well consistently using an underpowered race.

Also, thanks for responding to an innocent enquiry with needless hostility!
Lastbil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden75 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5115
@ OP: Playxp says july was the first player to advance from group D, not vealsteak.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5116
motbob your 류경현 in Ro8 is Select (his name in Korean characters)
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5117
On November 16 2010 21:33 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:23 andrewwiggin wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.



Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ?

Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?


No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.

By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class - Luckily, Tester and Nada are both S class so the 'randomness' is over after GSL 3, and frankly there was no way to pre-seed until these initial GSL tournaments. I personally feel far more sorry for people who have not attained S class and have been knocked out by proven top level players (GSL performances).

The thing is, how do you know they weren't beaten by players of equal or better standard? The fact is, you don't until they compete in the GSL-proper. We do know that SKSS/Nada are class players, but they may have played poorly or been the worse players on the day, rather than been at the bad end of cheese/race balance.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
hichamoon
Profile Joined November 2010
Morocco2 Posts
November 16 2010 12:39 GMT
#5118
nerf toss more?
open your mind and shut your mouth
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 16 2010 12:40 GMT
#5119
Theres 7 more spots to fill. SeCreT has to be one of them!
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
November 16 2010 12:40 GMT
#5120
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.


That's exactly what people said about Zerg in season one. They saw players like Zenio and NesTea getting crushed and just assumed they weren't as good as the top Terran and Protoss players, which of course isn't the case.

I'm sure there are plenty of very good Protoss users in Korea who will shine once their race allows it.
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