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On November 16 2010 21:21 Sewi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:19 LittleeD wrote:On November 16 2010 21:17 Sewi wrote:On November 16 2010 21:14 Dakmaniac wrote:
maybe tester shud start mailing to dayvie =) Actually I dont consider this a joke. Top players really should send replays to Blizz when they think something needs to be fixed. Who else could be better for this than the actual pro players?! Zerg players did it in GSL 1 and Terans did not have the need for it so far. Maybe the pro toss players should really sit together, discuss some things and mail them to Blizz. This would be better than any balance discussion on any forum I guess. What'd you know? Maybe he does ofc I dont know if he does. I am just pointing out that it would be better than discussing balance in LR threads :p OT: I am shocked that there is so little info on Select. He is the last foreigner trying to qualify and noone knows how he is doing? Also, Does anyone know what race Julys opponent plays?
Actually. Makaprime send replays to blizzard, it resulted into the void ray nerf. Because there were certain timing pushes(/w charged void rays) wich were unstoppable even if you blindly prepared for it.
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looks like SeleCT is in his final match
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SeleCT is in final rounds!
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Im so happy Ret qualified!
Nederland fighting!
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Really wish huk made it  he has been training so long to qualify.
Now im rooting for the random, i hope he tears gsl 3 a new asshole.
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On November 16 2010 21:28 Sewi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:25 The KY wrote:On November 16 2010 21:19 Darksoldierr wrote:On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds. And why do you think, less "pros" playing with protoss? I don't hear any Pro-toss players actually complaining though. If anyone else has feel free to correct me. I think in the interviews from yesterdays qualifiers, MC stated that Blizz should nerf Marauders and that Roach range 4 should be put back to 3.
He didn't say it. He said that he feels "protoss is very hard to play. Zerg became stronger, and PvT became more of a build order risk. Force fields are the core of protoss, but it became harder since gateway units aren’t very effective". No calling for nerf, though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169153#1
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On November 16 2010 21:28 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:25 The KY wrote:On November 16 2010 21:19 Darksoldierr wrote:On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds. And why do you think, less "pros" playing with protoss? No idea why tbh, but I'd definitely say that outside of 5 or 6 really good toss players it's essentially a bunch of randoms and cannon fodder who aren't up to scratch. Idra said something once about it being easy to get good with toss, hard to be great. Could be something in that. I don't hear any Pro-toss players actually complaining though. If anyone else has feel free to correct me. Protoss is the race of men. We don't complain, we suck it up and fight harder.
Fair enough
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On November 16 2010 21:31 estee wrote:
SeleCT is in final rounds!
YES! GO SeleCT!
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On November 16 2010 21:30 Endorsed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:21 Sewi wrote:On November 16 2010 21:19 LittleeD wrote:On November 16 2010 21:17 Sewi wrote:On November 16 2010 21:14 Dakmaniac wrote:
maybe tester shud start mailing to dayvie =) Actually I dont consider this a joke. Top players really should send replays to Blizz when they think something needs to be fixed. Who else could be better for this than the actual pro players?! Zerg players did it in GSL 1 and Terans did not have the need for it so far. Maybe the pro toss players should really sit together, discuss some things and mail them to Blizz. This would be better than any balance discussion on any forum I guess. What'd you know? Maybe he does ofc I dont know if he does. I am just pointing out that it would be better than discussing balance in LR threads :p OT: I am shocked that there is so little info on Select. He is the last foreigner trying to qualify and noone knows how he is doing? Also, Does anyone know what race Julys opponent plays? Actually. Makaprime send replays to blizzard, it resulted into the void ray nerf. Because there were certain timing pushes(/w charged void rays) wich were unstoppable even if you blindly prepared for it.
Didnt know that. Makes this topic even more interesting. Lets see how remaining Protoss will do in GSL3 and if there will be a patch before the actual GSL starts.
Grats to July! Cant wait to see his games in ro64 as long it isnt ZvZ :p
And btw. Any info on Select?
EDIT: just read he is in final round. GLGLGLGL
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D1
박성준 ( 스타테일안심이 / July) v 김원형 (July advances 2:1)
박서용 ( ) v 박승호()
이형주 ( CheckPrime) v 김준호 ()
김상준 ( NEXPuzzle) vs 서명덕 ( )
D2
김찬중 vs 류경현( Dignitas.SeleCT)
정민수 ( 엔에스피지니어스 / NsPGenius) v
? vs 윤유정
김정균 vs ?
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On November 16 2010 21:23 andrewwiggin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds. Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ? Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?
No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.
By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question 
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김찬중 vs 류경현( SeleCT
Any info on his opponent?
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Aw HuK didn't qualify
Gz to Ret tho!
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Anyone one know if CoreJJang as qualified or lost yet? He made it to Ro32 last time. Not sure if maybe his name is one of the korean names.
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On November 16 2010 21:34 HaploPaithan wrote:
Anyone one know if CoreJJang as qualified or lost yet? He made it to Ro32 last time. Not sure if maybe his name is one of the korean names.
He qualified (under CoreZenith name).
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On November 16 2010 21:28 LittleeD wrote:Wo, cool with July qualifying! Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:28 dissonantharmony wrote:
I'm sorry to ask if it's been stated earlier, but I haven't seen Tasteless mentioned so far... does anyone know if he's played his qualifiers or not? He didnt participate in the qualifyers afaik.
Thanks for the info! Perhaps Motbob should edit the OP, as Tasteless is supposed to be playing his qualifiers today according to that...
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On November 16 2010 21:28 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:25 The KY wrote:On November 16 2010 21:19 Darksoldierr wrote:On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds. And why do you think, less "pros" playing with protoss? No idea why tbh, but I'd definitely say that outside of 5 or 6 really good toss players it's essentially a bunch of randoms and cannon fodder who aren't up to scratch. Idra said something once about it being easy to get good with toss, hard to be great. Could be something in that. I don't hear any Pro-toss players actually complaining though. If anyone else has feel free to correct me. Protoss is the race of men. We don't complain, we suck it up and fight harder.
Well actually Terran is the race of men, zerg is the race of bugs and Protoss are the race of...well I don't actually know what Protoss are.
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On November 16 2010 21:29 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote:
So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds. This is a retarded post. So, please tell me how MOST of these players that are popular right now got popular? They got popular from their PERFORMANCE in SC2. How can we know who is TRULY a good Toss player, if the RACE is setting them back? This is an infinite loop argument, you can't have top players without balance.
I don't think it's always true. We have Zerg champion in the first season, when Zerg is considered the weakest race. Yet, Fruitdealer still beat other good players, both T and P. And back in Brood War, we have Boxer won everything when Terran is considered underpowered.
Actually, if the race is considered weak and a player of that race win the tournament, that person could be consider a very top player, and can become a legend if he can dominate the field.
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On November 16 2010 21:29 Keniji wrote:
One question about july. His TLDP says he joined STARTALE in april 2008. Is that right? Did he won his last OSL for startale? That's odd.
looked it up myself. He obviously joined soul in april 2008. Is there some kind of connection or is this just a mistake in TLDP since all players of ST have odd joining dates, tho i don't know if they all played for STX before (I doubt it tho)
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