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On November 08 2010 06:00 EleanorRIgby wrote:theres no way jinro can lose the finals with the dumb 0-2 rule, will probably be another lackluster final 
Well in Jinro's case it's fair. Since he's been winning every series so far and his opponent has not.
The unfairness is when extended series happen in the loser bracket.
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TT1 played beautifully., dictated the pace of the game since the start. Knew how to keep his advantage after the contain. Calling second place for TT1.
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On November 08 2010 05:59 ohreallynow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 05:57 JoeSchmoe wrote:On November 08 2010 05:55 suejak wrote:On November 08 2010 05:51 FrankWalls wrote:On November 08 2010 05:49 suejak wrote: PU is least-deserving because he was beaten by Tyler in two Bo3s at this tourney. However, Tyler was robbed of one game by MLG officials yesterday. This time, he won the Bo3 but had to win 4 games to take the series.
PU is good. But he benefitted from every MLG fuck-up here. pu still would have won the first series 2-1 arguably.... and then in the extended series he still would have won 4-3. how is it that he isnt deserving again? Uh, Tyler won the first game and they reversed the results. He would have won 2-1. For the LB match, the point is that if the extended series format didn't exist, Tyler would have won 2-1. wtf are u talking about? PU would've won 2-1. Jesus JoeSchmoe you're an IDIOT. If Nony won the first game he could of did a cheese and then if that failed he would of picked the final map and had another chance. Instead he goes down 0-1 and doesn't have any room to try a strat because hes already up against the wall. Not to mention the mental stress of having a game you won raped from you in a tourney for money. Are you this dumb dude?
Calm down bro. (Almost wrote clam down...do that too). Stop taking this so seriously and insult people. We don't know what the result would have been. But even if you are correct, that's no reason to be a jerk.
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Rush to Colossus: no good Delayed Colossus with Immortals on the way: fuckin' good
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Did anyone happen to screencap the Extended Rule poll? Because that shit is gone, when I voted it was still at 67% against the rule.
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On November 08 2010 06:02 wildwest wrote: tt1 is showing Tyler how to play againts painuser Tyler knows how to play against painuser... 4-2
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Meh, the Tyler thing really ruined the tournament for me. =(
So unlucky.
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That Referee girl that comes by after the first game in TT1 v PainUser is hot @__@
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really nice timing push, well played TT1
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i cant rly hear the words: "awesome forcefields" anymore. yes i dont like protoss... lame
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I don't think there's a good solution to the extended series issue. That said, the optics of the situations look really bad - people will often cheer for the underdog, and having the deck stacked that much against them doesn't feel satisfying for the viewers.
Also, if you're going to do an extended series - and thus putting so much focus on how many rounds are won - you should be playing all 3 games of every series, shouldn't you? I mean, imagine if Tyler lost 2-0 in their first series, but then in the low-pressure 3rd game (which he'd have map choice for, right?), he pulled something out? Coming into the extended series 1-2 is a lot different than coming in 0-2. It seems like the rules have been compromised a lot in order to expedite the tournament, which again, doesn't feel good for anyone.
Speaking of which, I just think round robin group play works so much better than double elim. I know it's not practical to use for a tournament of this size, but when you're compromising and going with the double elim setup, you're going to have some drawbacks to deal with.
I think the system as it stands is probably the fairest you can practically do, but it does have a lot of real problems that can't just be brushed aside. I just don't think they can be fixed as easily as many people are implying in here.
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On November 08 2010 06:03 kane]deth[ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 06:02 wildwest wrote: tt1 is showing Tyler how to play againts painuser Tyler knows how to play against painuser... 4-2
Don't you mean 4-3?
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On November 08 2010 06:03 Windrose wrote: That Referee girl that comes by after the first game in TT1 v PainUser is hot @__@
You gotta be kidding...
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Thread spiraling into mass whining. Another quality LR thread.
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