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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3941
On November 08 2010 05:57 ohreallynow wrote:
You guys are seriously so dense you can't grasp the concept of how important winning the first game is? Nony might of not even had to go to the losers bracket.


Seriously if you can't grasp this simple concept that any semi-decent RTS player could comprehend then why are you arguing? I don't get it.


Well, they did a vote about extended series and apparently 67% of people think it's an unfair advantage.

If the guy won the first game in a standard format why can't he win a second game? Especially if that winner has already lost once in a double elimination tournament. As others have pointed out, the extended series rule turns it into a double/triple elimination hybrid (had it been standard Tyler would have beaten PainUser just now 2-1).
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3942
On November 08 2010 06:00 awu25 wrote:
have any of the players complained about the extended series?
no, it's just the fans complaining that their favorite got "screwed" over by the rule


You don't listen to State of the Game do you?
OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3943
On November 08 2010 05:55 AzurewinD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 05:53 Risen wrote:
On November 08 2010 05:49 happyness wrote:
On November 08 2010 05:44 Risen wrote:
On November 08 2010 05:43 happyness wrote:
On November 08 2010 05:41 7mk wrote:
I gotta say, starting off 0-2 is ridiculous, especially given the controversial way in which painuser beat nony.

oh well, GG, 4th place is still nice


I think nony is in favor of the winner of the WB getting an advantage. That's what he said in one of the SotG's


Yeah... the winner of the WB... which Painuser is not.


Sorry I wasnt clear. He's also in favor if two players played in the WB and face off again in the LB, the player who won in the WB should have an advantage.

Though I feel like the first game MLG botched very well could have thrown nony off his mental game and was RIDONCULOUS


Then you should have said that. Nony said he was in favor of the winner of the WB having an advantage because that's how ALL double elim tournaments work. You took what Tyler said out of context and tried to apply it to your own viewpoint.

Tyler, and most people who have used or watched double elim tournaments throughout the years, know that the winner of the WB should have an adv b/c it's double elim and so in the grand finals if there is an undefeated player, that person needs to lose two series to be eliminated.

MLG's system uses the, "oh we're going to give people random advantages that make no sense camp so instead of a double elim tournament we're going to have a TRIPLE ELIM tournament"

That is why people are upset. MLGs rules bastardized a perfectly fine double elim tournament setup and turned it into a double elim/triple elim hybrid.


I don't think this argument could be explained more clearly or cogently than this. Well said.

No, he is incorrect. Tyler specifically mentioned winning 3-0 in the WB and then being knocked out 2-3 in LB by the same player despite having a positive win record against him.

If the winner of a tournament has a negative win-loss record against another player in the tournament, is he really the winner?
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3944
They deleted the poll lol
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3945
On November 08 2010 06:00 awu25 wrote:
have any of the players complained about the extended series?
no, it's just the fans complaining that their favorite got "screwed" over by the rule


They've been complaining about it in SotG's.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3946
On November 08 2010 06:00 awu25 wrote:
have any of the players complained about the extended series?
no, it's just the fans complaining that their favorite got "screwed" over by the rule

After last MLG the SotG podcast shit allover that extended series, so yes players complain about it too
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3947
Wait is it just me or do the polls say who will win between TT1 and Jinro?
Are they assuming that TT1 will beat PainUser?
Malhorn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3948
**Please create another thread about the MLG rules.**
Now playing: Random 8)
Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3949
they removed that pool from the live blog. hmm
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3950
On November 08 2010 06:01 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 05:57 ohreallynow wrote:
You guys are seriously so dense you can't grasp the concept of how important winning the first game is? Nony might of not even had to go to the losers bracket.


Seriously if you can't grasp this simple concept that any semi-decent RTS player could comprehend then why are you arguing? I don't get it.


Well, they did a vote about extended series and apparently 67% of people think it's an unfair advantage.

That poll clearly never happened lol
dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3951
that's gg for PU no ghosts
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 21:02:57
November 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#3952
On November 08 2010 06:00 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Even the wording of their poll is wrong. The extended series rule is 100% fair... whether or not they want to use it is a different story. But there's certainly nothing more fair/unfair about it than without the extended series rule.


How is it 100% fair? Please explain your reasoning. As I view it , it is very unfair for any player that does not face the same opponent in LB as in WB. I'm sure everyone would love to have extra chances.
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3953
The only thing bad about the extended series is the finals and later tournament games might not as exciting for the viewers if they played before, but it is 100% fair.
ohreallynow
Profile Joined November 2010
31 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3954
On November 08 2010 06:00 awu25 wrote:
have any of the players complained about the extended series?
no, it's just the fans complaining that their favorite got "screwed" over by the rule





awu25 Having the first game taken from you in the best of a 3 series in the WINNERS BRACKET doesn't qualify as being "screwed"?


Then please explain to me what does
papercoop
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom107 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3955
wow they posted the results for the extended series rules then took them off
dont quote me on that
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3956
On November 08 2010 06:00 awu25 wrote:
have any of the players complained about the extended series?
no, it's just the fans complaining that their favorite got "screwed" over by the rule


wrong, incontrol, idra and nony all commentated on it in SOTG at DC that it was indeed stupid.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3957
Looks like GG
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3958
that is one 1337 cc hahaha
wildwest
Profile Joined September 2010
England78 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3959
tt1 is showing Tyler how to play againts painuser
Holy HUK Hwaiting
DarthKhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada166 Posts
November 07 2010 21:02 GMT
#3960
1337 Life floating away hahahaha
HOLY CHECK G.G.
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