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broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
November 03 2010 08:23 GMT
#741
Nony hwaiting!!!
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
November 03 2010 08:24 GMT
#742
Sigh. Idras performance has been underwhelming lately( well mlg dc was good but the matches were too one sided, and not entertaining).. The poll had idra leading to go the furthest in gsl but now we see that there are many gaps in his play. He may be he strongest foreigner but I also feel that he is over rated along with TLO. They may be better than everyone else that appears at mlg but they are obviously a level or so below the gsl competitors. Idra gets owned by zenio but zenio gets owned by nestea. People say the gsl is lackluster but if the people who win mlg and such can not hang with the gsl competitors (loner nexgenius and more). It can only mean how big the skill gap might be.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 03 2010 08:30 GMT
#743
Many thanks to gosucoaching, for providing us with this amazing showmatch. Great play by Nony, best of luck to you both in Dallas.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
November 03 2010 08:32 GMT
#744
It was really interesting to have this on the same day as BoxeR v NaDa.

For me, the Korean game was so much better, objectively, in terms of skill and technical play, but the North American game was much more a battle of the mind.
Socke Fighting!!!!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 03 2010 08:38 GMT
#745
wish this wasnt 1 am my time so I could watch it >_>

Gratz nony, super happy to have you rocking stellar play again
In the woods, there lurks..
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
November 03 2010 08:46 GMT
#746
Funny how cocksure IdrA was about getting to the final of GSL2 as if he was already there but follows it up by immediately getting knocked out of GSL2 in the next round and then getting thrashed in a match vs a foreigner. If IdrA was humble but ambitious like TLO he would have so many fans.
That boys a monster
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
November 03 2010 08:50 GMT
#747
Idra has plenty of fans. Some who like his bad manner. However he would have Many many more fans.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
November 03 2010 08:51 GMT
#748
Awesome Event, thank you very much Sirs !
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 03 2010 08:59 GMT
#749
Damn, i was looking for some hot zerg play to get some ideas for my ZvP ground play, a bit dissapointing
Good job Nony nontheless, Liquid` hwaiting
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
roliax
Profile Joined May 2010
135 Posts
November 03 2010 09:09 GMT
#750
Wow...I don't understand all this talk of IdrA throwing the games. Nony played fantastically. Game 3 stalker agression? He knows IdrA doesn't make lings and the 2 stalkers immediately caused IdrA to make 8 lings...not what he wanted.

Amazing timing push...right as lair started and IdrA had no units, the crawlers. And even more impressive was the blink micro almost losing no stalkers during the entire battle.

Nony deserved the wins man.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 09:31:02
November 03 2010 09:21 GMT
#751
I've never been this disappointed in a player ever....
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 09:34:44
November 03 2010 09:33 GMT
#752
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2010 17:24 adeezy wrote:
Sigh. Idras performance has been underwhelming lately( well mlg dc was good but the matches were too one sided, and not entertaining).. The poll had idra leading to go the furthest in gsl but now we see that there are many gaps in his play. He may be he strongest foreigner but I also feel that he is over rated along with TLO. They may be better than everyone else that appears at mlg but they are obviously a level or so below the gsl competitors. Idra gets owned by zenio but zenio gets owned by nestea. People say the gsl is lackluster but if the people who win mlg and such can not hang with the gsl competitors (loner nexgenius and more). It can only mean how big the skill gap might be.

OT:Instead of calling players overrated you should watch the matches they played properly instead of only watching wether they won or lost.

Great games, too bad they were so short tho.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 03 2010 09:35 GMT
#753
LOL scanning through this thread after watching the VODs is really disgusting - wtf is this, if IdrA kicks some behinds people call him the only "westener" with true skill, if IdrA loses people call him down for playing not seriously. I get that you all love IdrA and want him to roflstomp everybody in the ground, but how about showing some respect to both of the players?

How about respecting that Nony played great today, not making any mistakes in straight up games, only losing the one with the failed cannon-cheese?
How about giving IdrA a break, he plays absurdly good 99% of the time, maybe he just had a bad day or something?

Can't believe this, Teamliquid is better than this, cmon now.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 03 2010 09:36 GMT
#754
Ok so perhaps IdrA is overrated by "some" people.
But anyone who was on these forums before SC2 knows IdrA's limitations. He's still an awesome player though.

Really what's happening is Tyler is totally underrated. He will inevitably be an awesome player, possible even better than IdrA, it's just a matter of time.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Brutus
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
November 03 2010 09:40 GMT
#755
This was a boring series. It is basicly both doing the same build 4 times, with small deviation (blink), and 1 time nony tries a cannon contain and fails. I tried that build that idra does too, and it's a great build but it struggles vs warpgate pushes. That is exactly what happened.

Someone really has to come up with a new solid build order. Hydras are great, but become cannon folder later in the game. Roaches, as you saw, are okish vs this, but the timing is so that there won't be enough. Mass zerglings also doen't work because of the sentrys. Spire makes you too vulnerable to everything.

I was hoping Idra could show me, but he was destroyed too. Ah well, with time people will come up with ideas to do it
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
November 03 2010 09:49 GMT
#756
On November 03 2010 18:36 Klive5ive wrote:
Ok so perhaps IdrA is overrated by "some" people.
But anyone who was on these forums before SC2 knows IdrA's limitations. He's still an awesome player though.

Really what's happening is Tyler is totally underrated. He will inevitably be an awesome player, possible even better than IdrA, it's just a matter of time.


I agree. Idra just doesn't seem to get better, same in Broodwar after he went to Korea.

User was temp banned for this post.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 03 2010 09:51 GMT
#757
On November 03 2010 18:36 Klive5ive wrote:
Ok so perhaps IdrA is overrated by "some" people.
But anyone who was on these forums before SC2 knows IdrA's limitations. He's still an awesome player though.

Really what's happening is Tyler is totally underrated. He will inevitably be an awesome player, possible even better than IdrA, it's just a matter of time.

He already is an awesome player, not will be :>
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 09:55:47
November 03 2010 09:55 GMT
#758
Good matches and this brings me back to an older thread about who would perform best in Korea with the same amount of practice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=164586

I don't know if a single show match is enough to prove my point or assumption, but still. Whatcha all think?

Edit: seems to be closed
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#759
At least in game 4, idra needed burrow and mass roach to hold off a huge warpgate push like that. I think a bit too confident against 5 warpgates to put down a spire, he probably assumed that since 8 warpgate is "allin" 5 was a transition, its just nony saving the 450 minerals on chrono boost and good macro it seems.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
November 03 2010 10:06 GMT
#760
On November 03 2010 15:21 metaldragon wrote:
I Said it once il say it again.

NONY is likely the LAST person Idra would want to lose to in a best of 7.

If you know ANYTHING about the rivalry between these 2 players from BW till now you would understand.



Uhm, Nony has been mentioned by Idra as one player he does have respect for, so I don't know where you are going with that post?

Anyhow, great result for Tyler!
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
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