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neoenigma
Profile Joined October 2010
United States243 Posts
November 03 2010 01:16 GMT
#601
Looked like practice games where nony was trying strats against roaches every game. Idra never switched it up. Never seemed to play his usual style.

If Nony does better than Idra in Dallas, then you can all say Nony > Idra. This series did not convince me.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 03 2010 01:16 GMT
#602
I think IdrA is metametagaming to appear weak to his opponents.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 03 2010 01:16 GMT
#603
On November 03 2010 10:15 Firereaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 10:13 Slow Motion wrote:
Man some of you are willing to say the dumbest things instead of just admitting your boy Idra got beat straight up.

There's nothing to admit: the score-line is clear so stop being obnoxious. He got pwned in this series. Maybe he needs to get himself a jacket to take off for MLG.

Good of you to say that. Have you read the other comments in this thread?
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
November 03 2010 01:17 GMT
#604
Oh, and also, keep in mind that IdrA would have to place better than 120 people to make $400 at MLG Dallas this weekend. All he had to do here was win a bo7 against a guy he was arguably favored against.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19261 Posts
November 03 2010 01:17 GMT
#605
Surprising result and surprisingly fast. VODs are up if you missed it or if you went to bed because you live in Europe or something.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 03 2010 01:17 GMT
#606
On November 03 2010 10:14 Bagi wrote:
Happy to see Tyler win, I dont know much about him outside SOTG but that is enough to make me a fan.


He was quite a good player in SC:BW: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Nony
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 03 2010 01:17 GMT
#607
On November 03 2010 10:15 Firereaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 10:13 Slow Motion wrote:
Man some of you are willing to say the dumbest things instead of just admitting your boy Idra got beat straight up.

There's nothing to admit: the score-line is clear so stop being obnoxious. He got pwned in this series. Maybe he needs to get himself a jacket to take off for MLG.


Well i don't think it works unless it's an oGs tracksuit jacket.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 03 2010 01:17 GMT
#608
Oh, I admit, Idra may very well have been hiding his strategies.

But I doubt he intentionally played bad, and he didn't really play bad as much as play standard - which is why he lost since Nony crafted his builds to counter standard.

Maybe Nony revealed his hand too early. But then again, maybe he didn't - after all, Dallas isn't just Idra vs. Nony. Both have a lot of other opponents to go through first if they're going to meet at all.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 01:19:18
November 03 2010 01:18 GMT
#609
On November 03 2010 10:13 JoshSuth wrote:
I love how if IdrA had won, everyone would just be like "IdrA > all foreigners. Boring."

The fact that the underdog won in convincing fashion is enough to appreciate the series. Those saying IdrA doesn't care about the showmatch... why would he even bother accepting? You play to win the game.



Sponsor thing, hello??



But you are right too. Horrible series imo. Nony played well tho.
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cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
November 03 2010 01:19 GMT
#610
Hashe is no Foxer...
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
November 03 2010 01:19 GMT
#611
Was suprised idra didnt switch it up to muta/ling or something, either way we can see at mlg dallas, im a big fan of both players and cant wait to see what else they can show if they face again.

As for people saying nony revealed his hand, if anything he showed hes capable of throwing out a decent variety of PvZ strategies with possibly more i beleive this unpredictability is been underestimated by the majority of people posting right now.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 01:20:36
November 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#612
On November 03 2010 10:17 Azarkon wrote:
Oh, I admit, Idra may very well have been hiding his strategies.

But I doubt he intentionally played bad, and he didn't really play bad as much as play standard - which is why he lost since Nony crafted his builds to counter standard.

Maybe Nony revealed his hand too early. But then again, maybe he didn't - after all, Dallas isn't just Idra vs. Nony. Both have a lot of other opponents to go through first if they're going to meet at all.

Well-crafted build orders are common, while a well-crafted post like this is like a white elephant on the LR threads.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
November 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#613
Machine vs. HasHe going on right now. After that the other showmatch will happen.
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MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 01:21:53
November 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#614
I would have liked Idra to win that series but Nony really played well.

Nony's play with blink stalker was fantastic, and Idra clearly has trouble dealing with 3 gates expand into 5 gates, even when he scouts it. In the last game i think he was getting too scared of that build and went for a preemptive push thinking it would be that build again.

I don't think Idra played poorly, he just knows how strong 3 gates expand into 5 gates is, and knows he has to stop that before the 5 gates are up. Unfortunately for him Nony managed to hide his stargate just long enough in the last game.
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
CalmDown.Breathe
Profile Joined June 2010
United States176 Posts
November 03 2010 01:21 GMT
#615
Disappointed IdrA grudgingly stuck with roach play all 5 games. After 5 games of nothing but gateways no robo, i thought for certain there'd be hydra or infestor play somewhere in there.

On the other hand, Tyler totally took advantage of IdrA's standard play. exploited key weaknesses, great use of chronoboost to reinforce army much quicker than IdrA probably expected, and was the aggressor the whole time. GG
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
November 03 2010 01:21 GMT
#616
On November 03 2010 10:16 Whole wrote:
I think IdrA is metametagaming to appear weak to his opponents.

Yeah, did that great in the GSLs
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 01:24:15
November 03 2010 01:21 GMT
#617
On November 03 2010 10:16 Whole wrote:I think IdrA is metametagaming to appear weak to his opponents.


Then you'd imagine he would be "metametagaming" against HuK in a match he's had nothing to lose in, than a $400 match against Tyler of all people (given the history between them).

Edit: and as for "hiding the strategies before MLG", I wouldn't hold my breath. In fact, I'd put the amount of money Tyler just won on IdrA using the same general strategies he used against HuK and tonight. =P
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 03 2010 01:21 GMT
#618
On November 03 2010 10:19 cuppatea wrote:
Hashe is no Foxer...


It's not just the worse micro, but also what seems to be significantly worse macro. Foxer had a constant stream of marines in much higher numbers than this. However, it might of just felt that way since he lost much less per bling.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 03 2010 01:21 GMT
#619
On November 03 2010 10:20 Firereaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 10:17 Azarkon wrote:
Oh, I admit, Idra may very well have been hiding his strategies.

But I doubt he intentionally played bad, and he didn't really play bad as much as play standard - which is why he lost since Nony crafted his builds to counter standard.

Maybe Nony revealed his hand too early. But then again, maybe he didn't - after all, Dallas isn't just Idra vs. Nony. Both have a lot of other opponents to go through first if they're going to meet at all.

Well-crafted build orders are common, while a well-crafted post like this is like a white elephant on the LR threads.


Thanks
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
November 03 2010 01:23 GMT
#620
Idra fanboy tears are delicious. If he wasn't going to try then he shouldn't of accepted. I don't think Gosucoaching forces people to play showmatches. Not only does he do himself a disservice but, also the people(gosucoaching) that decided to give him the opportunity. Better not invite Idra to any showmatches then because there will always be a bigger prize pool around the corner for him to save his "secret strats" for. We all see how those "secret strats" worked out in GSL2.

I'm happy for Teeler, $400 richer and a good showing.
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