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On November 01 2010 10:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:26 Gudeldar wrote:
Waiting to GG is not BM, everyone who keeps saying it is must be an Idra fanboy. Building hatcheries in your opponents base definitely is. Idra is an asshole and always will be an asshole, its just his personality. It must be hard to be that wrong. Not gg'ing after he held off w/ voidrays was one thing, but after his natural was killed again and he knew IdrA was on 6 bases... then it becomes BM. Type GG and move on. Anyhow, great tournament in general. Day and wheat are good together and the production quality was awesome. A shame for either ustream or your internet crapping out a few times, but still enjoyable to watch in between chapters of reading I postponed.
I'm sure taking every base on the map was completely necessary to beat him at that point too right? Its probably pretty upsetting to lose because of such a stupid mistake in front of thousands of people on stream and losing a prize like that. He GG'd soon after he lost his natural when Idra finally decided to come attack him.
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why is building hatches in your opponents base bm?
wouldn't it help you end the game faster spawning units closer to the rest of your army?
WHY ARE YOU ALL SUCH BABIES
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IdrA always GGs appropriately (like RO16 GSL2, or when he cancelled his CC instead of halting it in BW) so I imagine thats another reason he was manner hatching.
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On November 01 2010 10:39 Gudeldar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On November 01 2010 10:26 Gudeldar wrote:
Waiting to GG is not BM, everyone who keeps saying it is must be an Idra fanboy. Building hatcheries in your opponents base definitely is. Idra is an asshole and always will be an asshole, its just his personality. It must be hard to be that wrong. Not gg'ing after he held off w/ voidrays was one thing, but after his natural was killed again and he knew IdrA was on 6 bases... then it becomes BM. Type GG and move on. Anyhow, great tournament in general. Day and wheat are good together and the production quality was awesome. A shame for either ustream or your internet crapping out a few times, but still enjoyable to watch in between chapters of reading I postponed. I'm sure taking every base on the map was completely necessary to beat him at that point too right? Its probably pretty upsetting to lose because of such a stupid mistake in front of thousands of people on stream and losing a prize like that. He GG'd soon after he lost his natural when Idra finally decided to come attack him.
Are you just trying to find stuff to cry about or what?
Are you really saying a Zerg player taking expansions all over the map is unnecessary?
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On November 01 2010 10:40 leveller wrote:
IdrA always GGs appropriately (like RO16 GSL2, or when he cancelled his CC instead of halting it in BW) so I imagine thats another reason he was manner hatching.
Idra doesn't always GG, he is the only top level player I can remember ever seeing rage quit in a tournament.
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Spamming mules, sending drones, w/e seems like standard practice when the game is obviously over without a gg.
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On November 01 2010 10:39 Gudeldar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On November 01 2010 10:26 Gudeldar wrote:
Waiting to GG is not BM, everyone who keeps saying it is must be an Idra fanboy. Building hatcheries in your opponents base definitely is. Idra is an asshole and always will be an asshole, its just his personality. It must be hard to be that wrong. Not gg'ing after he held off w/ voidrays was one thing, but after his natural was killed again and he knew IdrA was on 6 bases... then it becomes BM. Type GG and move on. Anyhow, great tournament in general. Day and wheat are good together and the production quality was awesome. A shame for either ustream or your internet crapping out a few times, but still enjoyable to watch in between chapters of reading I postponed. I'm sure taking every base on the map was completely necessary to beat him at that point too right? Its probably pretty upsetting to lose because of such a stupid mistake in front of thousands of people on stream and losing a prize like that. He GG'd soon after he lost his natural when Idra finally decided to come attack him.
You just took your previous wrongness to a whole new level. Normally I wouldn't respond to such silliness... but good lord.
ps: if you haven't seen other "top pros" not gg then you don't watch any sc2 outside of the GSL.
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Hm, let's call it the Jaedong tourney...
Idra vs. Huk
Huk vs. Slush
LzGamer vs. Machine
Slush vs. LzGamer
They all had a 0:1, just to get 3:1'ed
Only in Huk vs Machine somehow the loser took the 2nd game instead of the 1st (maybe they both should get DQéd for that!). But all others were 0:1 into 3:1. :D
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On November 01 2010 10:36 CursedFeanor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:28 Subversion wrote:On November 01 2010 10:26 CursedFeanor wrote:On November 01 2010 10:22 Subversion wrote:
IdrA is just on another level. And is that really a surprise? He practises a LOT more, has more experience, and competes at the highest level in Korea.
Actually, in recent interviews IdrA said he was practising around 8h a day and HuK said between 10h and 12h a day (plus some physical training here and there)... so this "fact" is erroneous. Besides that, I enjoyed the games despite I wish HuK won in the end... Thing is, you just can't outmacro IdrA late game apparently! Maybe true, but IdrA plays against the top players in the world. HuK plays against the top North American players, and HuK pretty much is the top North American player. IdrA plays against people above or equal to his level, HuK plays against people who are mostly below his level. You can't get better that way. That's pretty much true (with some exceptions, for exemple HuK training with Boxer at blizzcon) and that's why I just can't wait to see him perform in GSL3 and the future ones. He will obviously benefit from the higher level of training there and I definitely think he has what it takes to make a name for himself, even in Korea!
Hey I fully agree with you! Like I said in my original post, I think he has tons of potential and I'm really hoping we will perform really well in GSL3. The more foreigners we have over there the better! They make for better interviews 
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I think people are taking his expansion thing too seriously.
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I was really impressed with the tournament as a whole. Some insanely good games, like the third match I believe it was between Lz and Torch and the second match between Huk and drewbie. I would love to get my hands on those replays without the commentary just to watch them from both players perspectives. Great commentary. And sans Ustream crashing out a couple of times it was well done.
Good finals between Huk and Slush, and even though Huk didn't beat IdrA, shit happens and that's all there is to it. He made a misclick. He can and will grow in Korea playing against absolute cream of the crop players like NaDa.
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It's bm, but what's wrong with that?
It's like Maka nuking his own army, or Foxer building 10 raxes, manner mules, etc.
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On November 01 2010 10:45 Aegeis wrote:
I think people are taking his expansion thing too seriously.
It's IdrA. He could win the GSL3, donate all of his winnings to a charity, and people would still say he's bad and selfish... 1000% guaranteed. A famous internet catchphrase would normally go here that rhymes with gator.
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On November 01 2010 10:44 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:39 Gudeldar wrote:On November 01 2010 10:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On November 01 2010 10:26 Gudeldar wrote:
Waiting to GG is not BM, everyone who keeps saying it is must be an Idra fanboy. Building hatcheries in your opponents base definitely is. Idra is an asshole and always will be an asshole, its just his personality. It must be hard to be that wrong. Not gg'ing after he held off w/ voidrays was one thing, but after his natural was killed again and he knew IdrA was on 6 bases... then it becomes BM. Type GG and move on. Anyhow, great tournament in general. Day and wheat are good together and the production quality was awesome. A shame for either ustream or your internet crapping out a few times, but still enjoyable to watch in between chapters of reading I postponed. I'm sure taking every base on the map was completely necessary to beat him at that point too right? Its probably pretty upsetting to lose because of such a stupid mistake in front of thousands of people on stream and losing a prize like that. He GG'd soon after he lost his natural when Idra finally decided to come attack him. You just took your previous wrongness to a whole new level. Normally I wouldn't respond to such silliness... but good lord. ps: if you haven't seen other "top pros" not gg then you don't watch any sc2 outside of the GSL.
Whatever. Its pointless trying to argue with Idra fanboys, I don't know why I even tried.
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On November 01 2010 10:39 ekaj wrote:
why is building hatches in your opponents base bm?
wouldn't it help you end the game faster spawning units closer to the rest of your army?
WHY ARE YOU ALL SUCH BABIES
lol that bolded part was a joke, right?
please, please tell me you were kidding.
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Sigh. People, people.. srsly ><
Anyways, great tournament guys, enjoyed it a lot!
And I'll be the first to admit I swooned at seeing more IdrA macro magic going on, but there's no shame in losing to that (especially in such an unfortunate way). If anything, I'd love to see HuK pick up some of that extra experience and refinement the Gregmeister (yes yes, I know, it's Grack) has overseas, even better games for all of us.
But first.. rematch in Dallas?
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On November 01 2010 10:47 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:39 ekaj wrote:
why is building hatches in your opponents base bm?
wouldn't it help you end the game faster spawning units closer to the rest of your army?
WHY ARE YOU ALL SUCH BABIES lol that bolded part was a joke, right? please, please tell me you were kidding.
i was kidding
but i still don't understand why everyone has to whine about it =/
now people are saying it was BM for him to expand to the rest of the map lol
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On November 01 2010 10:42 Gudeldar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:40 leveller wrote:
IdrA always GGs appropriately (like RO16 GSL2, or when he cancelled his CC instead of halting it in BW) so I imagine thats another reason he was manner hatching. Idra doesn't always GG, he is the only top level player I can remember ever seeing rage quit in a tournament.
The point wasnt SAYING gg but admitting defeat. Idra admits defeat the moment he has no chance to win, some people dont... thats all I meant. Saying gg or not has nothing to do with it.
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Some people are taking things waaaay too seriously. Trash talking, the so called "manner" actions and winning ceremonies are part of the game. This is not a 5 o'clock tea party, this is a competitive game. If a player has a solid foundation and has proven that he is one of the best, hell yeah, he can afford to be cocky. I would love it if IdrA focuses all of his rage energy on just humiliating his opponents sometimes. No typing, just pure pwnage.
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On November 01 2010 10:48 ekaj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:47 Subversion wrote:On November 01 2010 10:39 ekaj wrote:
why is building hatches in your opponents base bm?
wouldn't it help you end the game faster spawning units closer to the rest of your army?
WHY ARE YOU ALL SUCH BABIES lol that bolded part was a joke, right? please, please tell me you were kidding. i was kidding but i still don't understand why everyone has to whine about it =/ now people are saying it was BM for him to expand to the rest of the map lol
Honestly, I'm disappointing IdrA didn't BM more. Where was the mass corruption/changeling/infested terrans? He couldn't even spell out 'Evil Geniuses' in Spine Crawlers for us? What a goodie twoshoes little bitch.
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