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SC2Casts.com KOTH #5 Ret vs QXC - Page 10

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TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
October 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#181
Ret just throwed units away because he was so ahead in terms of ressouces that he thought it was over and could just overwhelm qxc.
Sad that people don't understand such obvious things.
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
October 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#182
To be honest QXCs defense wasnt great rets attacking was just bad. Last match was really boring but otherwise great game and congrats to ret!
We fucking lost team - RTZ
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
October 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#183
qxc started to make this drops way to late
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#184
i only tuned in the last 20 minutes but dont get why people think this was the best game ever...

ret had this game won for so long, he just failed pretty hard at finishing it.
Impressive play by qxc to stay alive that long though.

Anyways, it's great to finally see my favourite BW Zerg at the top again
beep boop
odder
Profile Joined April 2010
United States405 Posts
October 28 2010 22:20 GMT
#185
great series, thanks for the games
Brutus
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
October 28 2010 22:20 GMT
#186
Why does everyone keep saying that ret should had ended it earlier? What could he do? He was forced to let him mine out, and keep switching between blord and ultralisk to make the vikings or tanks useless. He played it out perfectly imo.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#187
Well done ret, but seriously you give me a massive headache with the way you throw away units/hatcheries when you're ahead. Luckily you managed to starve qxc without dying, but goddamn that game was so tense :S
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
October 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#188
gg ret
insane games
props to qxc as well
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 22:22:03
October 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#189
im not sure how i was supposed to finish it? maybe theres some secret things that units can do in sc2 that i didnt find out yet but mass tanks + mass viking + mass pdd + PF in near vinicity is pretty unkillable lol
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#190
I hope replays will be published.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#191
o.O 3hr Show match! :O
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 28 2010 22:21 GMT
#192
On October 29 2010 07:20 Brutus wrote:
Why does everyone keep saying that ret should had ended it earlier? What could he do? He was forced to let him mine out, and keep switching between blord and ultralisk to make the vikings or tanks useless. He played it out perfectly imo.


losing 3 hatches and not taking the super safe 12 o clock base is not what I'd call perfect
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PsykoMantis
Profile Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 22:22:53
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#193
not saying you could have done much more, ggs, however when qxc did throw down mass pdd, you could have NPed all of them and used them in your favor
edit: i think you can NP pdds...pretty sure i read it in another thread if not ignore me
MGren
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 22:23:59
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#194
I'm really wondering if it could've been a good idea to just swap to mass roach at some point, they do quite well vs tanks, right? And if you have a ton of bases mining you can just whip them out like nothing.

Also, did you notice Ret hadn't taken his own natural expansion (with the debris) the entire game? I guess some games, you are just so busy you don't have the time to take it out, when in truth you could easily knock it down and voilá there's a free base for you.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#195
On October 29 2010 07:21 Liquid`Ret wrote:
im not sure how i was supposed to finish it? maybe theres some secret things that units can do in sc2 that i didnt find out yet but mass tanks + mass viking + mass pdd is pretty unkillable lol

yeah, and you couldn't fight on creep (obviously) so ultras are like lemmings =)
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#196
On October 29 2010 07:21 Liquid`Ret wrote:
im not sure how i was supposed to finish it? maybe theres some secret things that units can do in sc2 that i didnt find out yet but mass tanks + mass viking + mass pdd + PF in near vinicity is pretty unkillable lol

I do have to ask.. why didn't you take your back expo?
JJEOS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States127 Posts
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#197
On October 29 2010 07:20 Brutus wrote:
Why does everyone keep saying that ret should had ended it earlier? What could he do? He was forced to let him mine out, and keep switching between blord and ultralisk to make the vikings or tanks useless. He played it out perfectly imo.

You don't attack into PF's tanks and Thors over and over and over. He tried drops a couple times but dropping 32 zerglings into a base 30mins into the game is pointless.
If at first you don't suceed, deny you were ever apart of it.
SaturnAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States125 Posts
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#198
That was just insane, if QXC could of just managed to be closer on the base count... And even with such a huge base advantage QXC was holding 300 style. This is the kind of contrast in style in TvZ I love so much. The incredible strength of Terran mech versus the insane swarm and macro of Zerg. Serious geek chills here.

IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#199
definitely a fun game to watch. im more impressed with qxc's defense and just holding the line against 8 bases. Ret lost like 100k resources in units or something. GJ by ret taking that advantage as well.
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 22:23:26
October 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#200
On October 29 2010 07:19 vyyye wrote:
I don't even know what happened that game. I mean.. what the.. what? How did ret not win earlier, how the hell did qxc survive for that long? Holy goddamn what an end to a series.

3-3 tanks planetary forces and how terran units are way more cost effective than zerg specially in the hands of a great player like qxc?

I dont know, games like these werent that uncommon in bw. Why are people flipping on this like ret played bad? he didnt.
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